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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:53 AM
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Bob Dole for UN Ambassador?
That idea is being floated by one of the posters over at Kos.

The idea is to propose someone more reasonable and rational than Bolton -- someone who would be assured of confirmation -- to avoid Bolton getting a recess appointment.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/14/11237/9721

Anyone like that idea?
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:55 AM
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1. Fine with Me
Although I think Dole has earned his retirement.......

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:56 AM
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2. Sounds very reasonable to me
and therefore, with this rabid administration, it won't happen.

Bolton will be a recess appointment even though that is political disaster. Georgie is used to political disaster.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:56 AM
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3. Almost anyone would be a better choce than Bolton
Dole can be diplomatic and has been in US politics for a long time.

But we are ignoring the larger problem that Shrub wants Bolton to complete his playing field (some say to attack Iran).
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:56 AM
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4. Perfect! Republican voice of reason, experience. Hmmmm.
However, * really isn't interested in reason.
You heard him... w/his mandate... he needs to REFORM the U.N.
As if we have the right. But then "rights" never enter into it with him and his kind.

Still, I think Dole is an excellent choice.
Heck, at this point, Newt is a good choice. Or Simpson.

Bolton has gotta go. I still figure we are on the "Nomination Death Watch"
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:13 AM
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8. I love your picture of the cat and dog...
Very cute. :)
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:56 AM
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5. More likely Libby. She's being groomed.
They'll want to give her som hard-right cred. Destroying the UN by twisting arms in a rush to war against Iran and/or Syria is just the ticket to the Repug nomination in '08.

How hideous.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:09 AM
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6. I think it's very important the the Democratic senators make it perfectly
clear that they are not filibustering Bolton, but that they are being stonewalled by the White House and are not getting the information they need to make an informed "up-or-down-vote".

This is the message they need to send to the public, I think proposing an alternate nominee dilutes the message.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:12 AM
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7. Powell
I think they should of given him the role.

I know many people are pissy about Powell and his 180 ass kiss in the middle of all of this. But he did try to be the voice of reason. He was often against the policies. Probably exactly why he was picked, they want another Bush bitch under this thumb.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:24 AM
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11. Thoroughly dirty though he is, he's not subservient enough
He also needs to reclaim some kind of honor, and the Bushies know this. Let's get this straight: HE WAS FIRED. He didn't go off to trim roses and sip tea at twilight, he was cashiered for not toeing the line for the blood-drenched psycho-killers who want to crush the rest of the world.

Let's not get misty-eyed for him, either. His lies to the U.N. are a moment of national disgrace, and having Tenet behind him just shows his cowardice even more.

This is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a "good" person; he just doesn't look so bad when standing alongside murderous greedheads like Cheney and Rumsfeld.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:49 AM
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12. True enough
I feel a small amount of pity for him. He had a well respected career up until this Administration spit all over it. But he also allowed himself to stoop in the sludge the BushINC used to go to war. I don't think for 1 min. he believed the lies. One day we may very well write a book about it. It's too bad he doesn't come forward now with that info, he's be the iceberg that sunk the ship.

But your right, good is all relative when it comes to this party.

He was fighting back, but then caved just before the UN. He became the good solider.

He also came out against Bolton, his voice on that matter was part of reason there is a split in Republican party on the "battered nominee." (lol cracks me up every time the press says that). There has to be a small amount of redemption for him in there some place for that?
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:14 AM
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9. George the Lesser has to have HIS way, no matter if it's good for the our
country or nor. Dole would probably be a pretty good choice. But he is not what George WANTS - and we MUST have what George wants.

Bet money on it ( if I had any.)
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:23 AM
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10. I'm cool with Dole...
But do you think he will refer to himself in the thrid person?

"Bob Dole thinks that a diplomatic settlement should be negotiated..."

That could be confusing to many who are not native English speakers.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:33 AM
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15. lol I forgot how he refers to himself. n/t
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:51 AM
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13. I don't like either Dole's politics but both have more diplomatic skills
than Bolton.

But then, my sofa has more diplomatic skills than Bolton.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:29 AM
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14. I think it would be funny if a Dem proposed that on the Senate Floor
Let's see... The Democrats are suggesting and reccomending a moderate Republican, someone with a good reputation and public image and who has not only the qualities necessary but is also a good statesman.

But then watch Bush reject it, say its his guy or no one.

I wonder Bush would have a breakdown?

I wonder if people would start to notice what a totalitarian, extremist fanatic Bush is.

And moreover, will they realize that he is nothing more than a spoiled brat who is accustomed to getting his own way?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:38 AM
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16. It's not hard to find someone more reasonable or rational than Bolton
However, Bob Dole is also given to blunt talk that might not serve well in diplomatic circles. Libby Dole might be a good choice.

In any case, we're wasting bandwidth. The Bushies don't want to reform the UN. They want to destroy it.

Besides, there is no such thing as a reasonable, rational neoconservative.

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:42 AM
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17. If they want to criticize the UN, Dole will be listened to
Despite his politics and his occasional attack-dog snarling, Dole is very presidential, very statestman like. He was the perfect goodwill ambassador for that other faked hard-on campaign, so why not for the fake hard-on that is the Bush foreign policy.
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