PROOF: Extreme RW HATE Groups want to Impeach Bush Too!

[Up2Late]

Is this Good or Bad? I think this means we need to very careful that we do not get linked or lumped together with groups like this.

I never thought I'd see this day, but (I found this last night, while researching Media bias and Manipulation) at least One RW Hate group (White Power Type) want to see * Impeached too.

I posted this the other night Active U.S. Hate Groups in 2004 (Southern Poverty Law Center) at the link below:

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3905939>

After a few questions were raised about Innocent sounding "Hate Groups," like "Orange County Assembly of Christ," I started Google some of these. For "OCAC" I found:

Stormfront White Nationalist Community - The 100 Marks of Israel ...
Orange County Assembly of Christ: http://www.ocassemblyofchrist.org/ 11th Hour Remnant Messenger: http://www.televar.com/~vb11thhr/index.html ...
www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=107498 - 63k - Cached - Similar pages

<http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=107498>

Which leads to this:

BTW: this was the "HOT" topic in their LOUNGE last night. The "White Power" people are discussing the Impeachment and :hi:"The Downing Street Memo"!

<http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=211689>

Word of warning: Reading past anything outside of the "Lounge" at this site, could make you head explode. I don't recommend it.

Sorry, this was just such a weird find that I had to share this.:shrug:

Note: this is also related to the post below:
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1868429#1869995>

[slor]

1. "The enemy of my enemy...

is, in this case, very much still my enemy".

[grumpy old fart]

2. Only Impeachment Opinion that counts is House Republicans'................

So we are pretty much SOL unless * is caught getting a hummer from Gannon/Guckert while burning a flag.........

[fooj]

28. Anything's possible...

:smoke:

[AntiCoup2K4]

3. Phelps is certainly on board

www.godhatesamerica.com

(HATE: it's not just for "fags" anymore!!)

[Up2Late]

5. MAN! That guy HATES EVERYONE! WTF?

I only glanced at his main website, so I didn't find that page, but :wtf:

I bet he thinks his own Dad is "fag" too.

[Cato1]

4. American Nazis...

...believe the Iraq war is a "Jewish conspiracy". They also don't like Bush's immigration policies. In general, the fascist far-right hates his guts.

[pnutchuck]

6. wow Just wow......... eom

[berni_mccoy]

7. Keep this Kicked

This is proof that we CAN go after Bush and NOW is the time...

Bush and the Repubs approval ratings are at an ALL TIME LOW

We must take advantage of their weakness.

We must NOT let this opportunity slip by to TAKE BACK AMERICA! Here's how we can do it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1875248

[Up2Late]

8. I had the same Idea a few days ago, but I think we should be cautious.

Here's a link to my older post:

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1865506>

[Wabbajack]

9. At least bush has a motive

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4 for him and his friends. These people are just evil racists.

[OneTwentyoNine]

10. I think Fred Phelps goes WAY beyond extreme......

Now their glad everytime someone gets offed in Iraq because the Army is a FAG Army. Jesus.....

[Up2Late]

12. No kidding, what I want to know is why Fred Phelps is NOT in Prison

I thought inciting violence and praising the deaths of Americans (especially American Soldiers) was Illegal?:shrug:

[The Animator]

29. With Phelps and Co. protesting at Soldiers funerals now,...

It's only a matter of time before one of the twenty one guns "misfires" while saluting a fallen comrade.

Soldiers won't stand for this bullshit. I'm certain that if this fucker starts this nonsense in the presence of a fallen soldiers family, or squadmates, his nuts will be removed through his throat.

[Hobarticus]

30. He'd have to join some animals-right group to be labelled a terrorist

Y'see.

No right-leaning groups, like Terry Randall and Operation Rescue, who have flat-out ENDORSED killing doctors and judges, make the list for domestic terrorosts.

No. One has to set lab animals free to be considered a threat to the very fabric of our society.

[MsTryska]

11. Hey Up2Late!

it took me a minute to figure out why stormfront would want him impeached. it's cuz he loves da jews.


strange world.

[Up2Late]

13. Sure is, I think the more I learn, these days, the more I wish...

...I had never learned this or that.

[MsTryska]

14. *lol* i know the feeling.....

it's disturbing, but as the saying goes..."politics makes for strange bedfellows"

[Independent_Liberal]

15. Kick!

[Up2Late]

16. Just one more Recommend and it makes the Greatest Page "hint," "hint"

or just kick, :kick:

but a recommend would be better.

[laugle]

17. They are racist scum, you had it right,

be very, very cautious. Felt like I needed a shower after reading all that hate.

[raysr]

18. Except for

the "White Power" stuff I think they're on to something. The Isreal connection to this war is very real.

[Up2Late]

21. I agree with you second statement, but it's one of those things that...

...most here know, but are prohibited. (I think by the site rules) from talking about. You should hear this audio story from NPR, that was on a few weeks ago, It really makes it clear how truly powerful the lobbyist group AIPAC actually is. I'm wondering if theses two recent stories, are why NPR and PBS are being pressured right now.

<http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4660751>

<http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/transcripts/2005/jun/050614.abramson>

[bonzotex]

19. The enemy of my enemy is .....

...not my friend in this case. The Far Right Christian Libertarian Nutjobs hate Bush for reasons you don't even want to be associated with.

The Patriot/Militia movements have a lot of fragmented splinter sects. Some are plain old white racists, some are just poor rural whites with bad attitudes because they can't make a living and don't know why. Some are full blown conspiracy nuts with a whole pantheon of new realities they've built into an impervious bubble. Some of these groups can almost make sense in public and have some sophisticated PR campaigns.

Read about them, study them, like you would potentially dangerous wild animals, but they will never be useful Democratic allies.

Some of the people that support these groups, however, the poor disenfranchised, working class whites, would be loyal Democrats if we can just get out a strong populist message and follow through on it when we regain power.

[Up2Late]

23. Well said. The thing that confuses me is, where's the line between...

...these people and people who DO have a voice in the the Congress, like that James Dobbson nut?

And, Is that guy, Fred Phelps, exerting any influence over the people in congress? :shrug:

[bonzotex]

24. we don't need to draw any distinctions

The bad news:
Yes, too many Repugs, especially in the House, are absolutely batshit crazy with their twisted version of Christianity and they are still trying to force it by legislation on all of us.

There are far right groups that don't like the Republicans any more than we do but some are also borderline terrorist organizations and we need to keep track of what they say and do.

The good news:
1 The fundies of all stripes have already started tearing at each other over what "God wants". They'll beat each other to death over who gets to drive the car, we just have to keep the keys away from them.
2. The Republican power elites don't really give a shit about fundie issues unless it turns out the rabid faithful to the polls, then when they've voted, the party quietly drops most real pushes on their issues. (Taking away women's medical rights is the major exception)
3. As Democrats all we have to do is fight to keep the Constitutional guarantees of Church State separation. We can have a party of strong moral and ethical values without invoking anyone's pet religion.
4. The way nutty vomit funnels like Phelps end up getting lumped in with The Republicans in the common perception. So those nut jobs don't hurt us at all.
5. For most of the really, really, out there right wingers, the Republican Party will never be fascist enough or they fancy themselves as rugged Libertarian Christians who think the govt is already too fascist. These people are simple out of our reach will never get any real power and there's no need at all to try and reason with them.

Couple of good books to check out, 'The Terrorist Next Door, and "In God's Country", also check out Orcinus, http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/ a good blog by the author of "In God's Country" where periodlically covers some of the latest far right shennanigans.

[FreedomAngel82]

20. Why do they want him impeached?

Is it because of the Iraq war and the minutes or their own agenda?

[Up2Late]

22. Several reasons, such as his proposal for a "Guest Worker" program...

...which they consider amnesty for Illegal Alien workers, the "Giant Sucking Sound" of job leaving the country, his "support for Israel," and basically for "destroying America."

It was really quite shocking to me, to find that some of these folks could actually write in complete sentiences, let alone could hold both logical and totally irrational opinions at the same time.

I really does break down quickly once you get out side the Lounge though.

On Edit: Oh and they think he's a Stupid Rich Boy, Who took us War for all the wrong reasons, and are just happy to see the Memo to Justify those views.

[bonzotex]

27. they have an agenda...

If you really want to dive deep into a sick, twisted, feces smeared little rat hole, there's plenty of stuff on line. Short wave radio and even some FM low power and pirate radio too. These folks are out there and they are pissed. Do some searches with Patriot Movement, Militia, Christian, NWO, 2nd Amendment rights, Immigration. You'll get the idea real fast.

Also check out The Constitution Party or the American Patriot Party.

Also go to Infowars.com to see what a relatively sane "Patriot" anti-globalist-conspiracy type site looks like and link from there.

Have a nice trip, take aspirin and wear gloves, long pants and roll your sleeves down. Don't get any on ya and for god's sake don't get any in your mouth.

[RedCappedBandit]

25. I do not recommend

visiting that site and reading through other threads..

What a disgusting group of ignorant jerks :puke:

[laugle]

32. Amen!!!!

[zulchzulu]

26. Even knuckle-dragging rednecks get it when it's this obvious

I bet these dudes at the site....ah nevermind.

[ngGale]

31. Bushco unleashed this bunch and empowered them...

he's going to reap their rewards. They hate everybody, Bushco needs to hide under the bed. :scared:

[Moderator]

33. Lock

Linking to hate sites, while not forbidden, is discouraged. We don't need to give them the hits and they are not our allies.