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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:20 AM
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Falwell says church must work to defeat Hillary Clinton in '08
Conservative religious leader Rev. Jerry Falwell credited evangelicals for putting President Bush in office in 2004 and said the Christian group now has its eye on defeating Hillary Clinton should she run in the next presidential election.

"The church won the 2004 elections and don't let anyone tell you any differently," Falwell told a crowd of about 9,000 attending Southern Baptist Convention Pastors Conference, a prelude to the two-day annual SBC convention that starts today.

"Now we've got a bigger challenge ahead of us. We've got to deal with Hillary in '08," Falwell said Monday, amid cheers and clapping from audience members in the Gaylord Convention Center in downtown Nashville.

http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/050621/moore.shtml
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:28 AM
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1. How does this ASSHOLE keep tax..
exempt status?
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:35 AM
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2. By being a college president rather than a minister,
I'd guess. I think he's usually billed as "the chancellor of Liberty University" these days and not as a minister -- don't know if he is pastor of his church anymore.

In any case, you can be sure he's got the legalities covered. He's a slick and smarmy sort.

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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:58 AM
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6. The legalities mean nothing to them....
we have "men of the cloth" preaching from the pulpit all over our nation, and no one does the first thing to stop them. Of course, when you have God's chosen one in the White House enforcement of those divisions between church and state are apt to not be enforced at all, by executive fiat. Just one phone call to the IRS and all conflicts are moot.
They KNOW the legalities, they just ignore them. Their boy is in office, the rules have changed. Any politician that courts these dangerous vermin is selling his soul to the devil. For all of their supposed "holiness", these people are as large a menace to our country as the Taliban was (is) in Afghanistan.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:37 AM
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13. How do you know that we have people ignoring the

law in churches all over our nation? Have you personally been in hundreds of churches across the country to see what's going on?

You could be right, but you could just as easily be giving in to paranoia.

We see these far-right "men of the cloth" like Falwell on tv and we get the impression there's a vast throng of ministers like him. But how accurate is that impression? And is the IRS really ignoring complaints about violations of the law?

Don't forget that Democratic politicians go to churches, too, when they're campaigning, and if it's wrong for a preacher to tell his congregation to vote for a Republican, it's equally wrong for another preacher to tell his flock to vote for a Democrat -- OR, possibly, one or both preachers have chosen their words carefully enough that the IRS couldn't prosecute them.

We definitely need to support watchdog groups to prevent abuses.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 06:13 AM
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12. If he doesn't, I am sure his mentor, the Rev. Moon does. I'm surprised
the Southern Baptists would allow a Moonie to speak.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:35 AM
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3. Hey Jer, I just got off the phone with Lynchburg's tax assessor. He's
willing to discuss quarterly or monthly payments for the 20+% of the city that's currently off the rolls.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:39 AM
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4. What the hell makes him think it will be Hillary?
Or has election fraud increased to the point that our choice of candidates is chosen for us?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 06:10 AM
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10. I'm almost willing to bet this is the case
I know of NO ONE who wants it to be Hillary - in virtual or real life (actually, there are two or three people here who champion her, which is more than I know in RL), despite what early polls are saying.

Maybe she's popular amongst the Party Elite, but the rank and file around these parts don't want her.

I swear, if she's foisted on us, maybe we should revolt BEFORE the general election.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:34 PM
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17. The GOP sure wants her in there
Haven't figured out why yet, but there is a distinct foul smellingness about the way the GOP keeps pushing Hillary at us.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:42 AM
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14. The GOP is pushing Hillary and damned if I don't think

the DLC will, too. And I'm not at all sure the primaries mean anything now.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:42 AM
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5. yes massa
keep us wimmun folks barefoot and pregnant and no sass if the old man wants to beat us up--after all, according to Jerry, we are lesser beings......
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 06:03 AM
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8. Well, you WERE....
created from Adam's spare parts, you know? :eyes: So in essence, you're still the property of the Man, get over it. What are you, some kind of feminazi or something? ;)
:sarcasm:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 06:01 AM
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7. We need to keep tabs on these people and turn the churches
playing politics into the IRS and local tax authorities. It's not right for them to be tax exempt if they're going to campaign for particular candidates.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 06:06 AM
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9. It won't happen during this administration....
the god squad KNOWS they're untouchable, that's why they're being so brazen in their efforts. God's chosen one is in the White House, remember? The sad thing is, bush BELIEVES it! That demonstrates how stable the little dictator is right there.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 06:11 AM
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11. Didn't something happen with the pastor who ousted the Dems?
I know lots of people contacted the tax authorities and the last I knew he was back pedaling as fast as he could. In fact, didn't he resign from the church? It was probably that or be taxed.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:15 AM
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15. "Gay Lord"? Falwell spoke at the "Gay Lord"?
:rofl:
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:18 AM
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16. Interesting to see all factions of the Republican Party pushing Hillary
I leave it to others to debate whether she would be a good choice or not.
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