Does the term "feminazi" apply to anyone in the feminism movement

[LittleClarkie]

Have you encountered anyone to whom that term actually applies?

Are there those who indeed got too far. Is the Right using the example of a few to smear the rest in the feminist movement? Or is the point entirely false.

Kernel of truth or no?

[dissent1977]

1. Feminism is about equality...

To equate it with Nazi thought is absolutely absurd.

[LittleClarkie]

4. Somehow I never thought that was the point

Like saying "the Soup Nazi" has something to do with WWII. It's a figure of speech, I reckon.

[jeff30997]

2. LittleClarkie ! You...You are a feminazi !

:sarcasm:

[LittleClarkie]

8. Shut up and sit down

I am not. No woman's rights for YOU!

[pmbryant]

3. Rhetorical BS

To the anti-woman contingent, anyone who stands up for the rights of women as individuals is a "feminazi".

Anyone using that terms automatically brands themselves as an opponent of basic human rights.

--Peter

[LittleClarkie]

10. I got into trouble as I tried to explain to someone

who didn't know me that I thought some folks went too far with some issues. I was trying to describe the idea of a left wingnut to go with the right wingnuts. Lefty freepers to go with the righty freepers, if you will. As an example I suggested that there might be those in the women's movement to who the term "feminazi" might actually apply. I think I used the term incorrectly to try an make my point.

Sometimes I feel the same about some of the more extreme PETA type folk, like the ones who ran naked in front of Bush, right in front of another group trying to protest the war, stealing their thunder.

Isn't there a segment of every group that can make the other in that group look like a bunch of nutcases? Those to whom you look and think "Please don't be on my side. You're not helping."

I think all I ended up doing was pissing off the woman I was speaking to, as she started saying things like "I think a wingnut sounds pretty good. I wanna be a wingnut." Which, by my definition, meant she wanted to be a red-faced freeper-like creature, only standing on the left instead of the right.

I think I might have had a point... somewhere... but the way I put it sucked. So I'm thinking that maybe I need to "Durbin" myself. But then I barely know this person anyway.

[pmbryant]

12. Best to make that point without using this word

As you unfortunately found out. In practice, the word does not mean what you suggested.

Given the right-wing genesis of the word, its corresponding emotional baggage, and the inherent inflammatory-ness of anything with "Nazi" in it, using that word is a sure-fire way to end hope for reasonable discussion.

--Peter

[LittleClarkie]

17. Gotcha

Without that unfortunate word, do you think I had a point? Or was I talking out my butt.

I do think you are right though.I didn't understand it's full meaning and the effect it would have. I think this girl thinks I'm either an idiot or about half freeper now. Probably not much I can do to erase that either.

[pmbryant]

20. A point, but not a very profound point

Every group has its fringe members. If you were to point to specific examples it would help, but it still would not be particularly relevant to the bigger picture of the struggle for full equality.

--Peter

[Eloriel]

5. Limbaugh's dishonest and hypocritical definition

He's the one who invented the term, AFAIK. He claims that it applies to "those people (women) who want to force everyone to have an abortion." His USE of the term belies that, of course.

[LittleClarkie]

11. I have run into folks

actually a man it was, who seemed to think that a fetus was akin to an appendix, a harmful lump of parasitic tissue that needed to be gotten rid of. Ya gotta admit, that's kinda nuts. I guess my point is there are nuts in every movement. I hate it that the entire movement is judged by them.

[bribri16]

6. But why is no one calling for Rush to "apologize?" n/t

[Demobrat]

7. A feminazi is any female

who refuses to be intimidated by macho bluster. Just ask Rush Limbaugh.

[dissent1977]

9. Isn't that an interesting context...

The Nazi is the one who refuses to bow down to the dominant power. Do these people have any sense of history whatsoever? If anyone is acting like a Nazi it is those who want to enforce a system of patriarchy and misogyny. In other words people like Rush Limbaugh.

[Totally Committed]

13. No. (n/t)

TC

[jillan]

14. funny you posted this today!

I was thinking about femanazi's this morning.

How hypocritical!

It's okay for the pig to call woman 'nazis'. But there will be hell to pay if a dem uses that word.

A drug user, 3 failed marriages, and calls women with their own brain a nazi! He's a real fine example of moral values, isn't he???

[Up2Late]

15. I think, if it makes you mad, it's aimed at you, It's just a stupid...

...term, meant to piss off non-Fans of the "Big Fat Idiot."

If you just considered the source, the Ignore of the speaker, and just ignore it, it shouldn't bother you.

[alarimer]

16. No

Absolutely not. It is term invented by Rush Limbaugh because he or some other conservative was treated badly by a woman one time. That's why there is all this pissing and moaning over the meaning of feminism. Some guy gets offended and all of sudden feminists are to blame (like if his wife doesn't make dinner one time or something).

[Demit]

18. My take is that in the early days, the late 60's & early 70's, there were

strident voices in the movement. Preachy women, self-righteous women. Crusaders, if you like. It was a time when the equal-rights amendment still had a chance of passing, and "women's lib" was much in the news. I remember older members of my family asking, "are you one of those women's libbers?" I remember making a point out of a lot of things--like making sure to open my own doors, and doing my bit to lecture men on how they should act toward me. There were women at the time who unfortunately made traditional (stay at home) women feel out of step, but that was publicly corrected by the movement long before Rush Limbaugh.

Limbaugh didn't coin that word till what, the early 90s, maybe? So I don't really understand what he meant by it, by then. By then we had been in a post-feminist age for some time. I started unapologetically putting on makeup again, the equal-rights amendment had died, women's basketball wasn't a novelty anymore... The crusade aspect had kind of calmed down by then. "Liberated" women weren't a shocking new development.

So no, I don't think there are any "feminazis". I think it is a made-up phenomenon coined by Limbaugh to whip up a backlash, give his listeners something else to hate, a definite focus for their unfocused anger at life.

[LittleClarkie]

19. I think it was those strident far away women who would bitch

out a man for open the door that I was thinking of, and thinking, "Yeah, we've had those." But as you say, it was a thing of the past by the time Rush came around. Not a great understander of women anyway, is he?