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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:16 PM
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"Cities get more power to seize homes "
first it will be urban areas..then..


http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/5472349.html

"Cities get more power to seize homes
Charles Lane, Washington Post
June 24, 2005 SCOT0624


WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that local governments can force property owners to sell out and make way for private economic development when officials decide it would benefit the public, even if the property is not blighted and the new project's success is not guaranteed.

The 5-4 ruling provided the strong affirmation state and local governments had sought for their increasing use of eminent domain for urban revitalization, especially in the Northeast, where many city centers have decayed and the suburban land supply is dwindling.

Opponents ranging from property-rights activists to advocates for elderly and low-income urban residents argued that forcibly shifting land from one private owner to another, even with fair compensation, violates the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, which prohibits the taking of property by government except for "public use."

O'Connor was joined in her dissent by Chief Justice William Rehnquist and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas. They wrote that the majority had tilted in favor of those with "disproportionate influence and power in the political process, including large corporations and development firms.""

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Van23 Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:26 PM
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1. This is a bloody disaster
for the Democrats!!! I was listening to Mike Malloy this evening and he had a caller from Oregon. The caller urged everyone to write your Democratic reps to denounce this ruling! This will be pure political red meat for the Repugs next election cycle. The "left" wing of the Court saying it's OK for corporations to evict people from their homes. God.....
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:59 PM
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2. I've finally picked my jaw off the floor...I posted about this earlier
only to discover that RW judges were opposed to this while our so-called left leaning judges OKAYED IT!! WTH??

What in HELL is wrong with our leaders?!!!???

I won't assume there's going to be a big rush to push everyone off their property tomorrow.....but the VERY IDEA of such a legal action is just plain wrong.
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:16 AM
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3. Agreed, Rethugs may try to spin this ruling, but much more is
at stake here than meets the eye. The ruling upholds the presumption that local eminent domain decisions serve a public purpose, and puts the burden on propertyowners to show otherwise.

Clearly, corporations can corrupt governments in ways that are hard to prove in court. But had the USSC ruled the other way, in favor of expansive federal Fifth Amendment property rights, THAT could have benefited corporations even MORE. Every local zoning decision could become a federal case!

The ruling DOES circumsribe corporate exercise of power through their ownership of property, which is arguably much more pervasive than their corruption of governments. See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1881274&mesg_id=1881274
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:26 PM
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11. Only two of the "liberal" justices were nominated by a Democrat (Clinton)
The others were nominated by Ford, Reagan & Bush the Smarter.

Why is this a disaster for the Democrats?

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:17 AM
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:01 AM
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5. old news..
the few minority families being offed may not share that opinion.
.I live right up the road maybe 15 miles from New London.This has been a moderately discussed local issue and now wow it hits the big time..surprised that the repukes voted like they did..what is their agenda ?
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:09 AM
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6. Lou Dobbs poll; 99% against SC decision
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/230605seizehomes.htm

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/240605vowtostay.htm

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44958
THIS LAND WAS YOUR LAND
High court's property decision stirs anger
Seen as 'slap in the face' to American homeowners

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Posted: June 24, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Property-rights advocates condemned the Supreme Court's split decision yesterday allowing a local government to seize a home or business against the owner's will for the purpose of private development.

The 5-4 ruling went against the owners of New London, Conn., homes targeted for destruction to make room for an office complex.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:17 AM
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7. Does anyone else see a connection to this new ruling, the bankrupcy bill
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 10:21 AM by bunny planet
and the possible popping of the housing bubble and rise in foreclosures in the US or is it just me? If more and more people are strapped for cash, and the value of homes comes down considerably, then the local governments can force people out of their homes with a much lower 'fair market value' offered as compensation. Just saying. All of this seems like a dastardly linked plan to me.

:tinfoilhat:

On edit, the more liberal judges on the court advocated for this, maybe they had their constitutional reasons for backing it, which of course the Republicans will capitalize on. Repubs will say the libs did it to you when you are removed from your property even though Republican companies will probably benefit.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 10:38 AM
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8. or maybe dey in it together
good pts..if this is a real fascist state about to happen..then it makes sense for the elites to try to appease both sides until it happens..

then the repukes blame the dems and vice versa and we lose all and the elites keep most
all for their glorious fuhrer
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:22 AM
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9. FUBAR no?
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:15 PM
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10. sit reps positive
situation reports are positive that the fascist elites overthrew this govt while the VN Vets were away at war..and played the anti-war movement against the vets..NOW both sides need to come togehter to unite against these fasist pigs like bush/cheny/delay/bolton

cowards and chikenhawks

If the Vets and anti-war people unite then the plot is exposed and bushco are in fed prison for TREASON..The neo-cons planned this at
U CHiacago in 1970s ..look up neo-cons and leo strauss..also have a greta source for ya..

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