Sign John Kerry's petition calling on Bush to fire Karl Rove!

[flpoljunkie]

http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/rove.php

An Open Letter to President Bush


Mr. President, your most senior advisor has purposely twisted the truth about a great moment of American unity for political gain. You cannot remain silent. Fire Karl Rove.

Dear President Bush,

In the days following the 9/11 attacks, you movingly spoke of the unity of purpose emanating all across America. Now, Karl Rove, your top political aide, wants us to believe that you weren't telling the truth -- that Americans were offering "therapy and understanding to the attackers." You cannot remain silent as your most senior advisor purposely twists the truth about a great moment of American unity for political gain.

It isn't the first time Karl Rove has crossed the line. It needs to be the last. I call on you to thoroughly reject his cheap, divisive efforts to challenge the patriotism of your political opponents. It's time to fire Karl Rove.

Sincerely,

http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/rove.php

[ewagner]

1. done n/t

[kostya]

2. Done. Took 5 seconds.

[ixion]

3. firing Rove will change nothing

He will be rehired in 5 mins with a new job title, and his presence kept out of the spotlight.

[flpoljunkie]

4. Yes, but remaining silent is not an option.

[Pacifist Patriot]

18. True. I figure this is a symbolic gesture.

But a symbolic :spank: is better than none at all.

[Al-CIAda]

5. Hey Kerry, what about the DSM? What about the PNAC?

Kiss my ass.

[TayTay]

8. Letter before the Sen Intel Comm

to get hearings:

KG posted that hearings would go before the Senate Intelligence Committee. The Rules of that committee state:

http://intelligence.senate.gov/rules%20of%20procedure.h...

Rule 6. Investigations
No investigation shall be initiated by the Committee unless at least five members of the Committee have specifically requested the Chairman or the Vice Chairman to authorize such an investigation. Authorized investigations may be conducted by members of the Committee and/or designated Committee staff members.

The members of the Committee, from whom five sigs are needed are:

REPUBLICANS
Pat Roberts, Kansas Chairman
Orrin G. Hatch, Utah
Mike Dewine, Ohio
Christopher S. Bond, Missouri
Trent Lott, Mississippi
Olympia J. Snowe, Maine
Chuck Hagel, Nebraska
Saxby Chambliss, Georgia

DEMOCRATS
John D. Rockefeller IV West Virginia, Vice Chairman
Carl Levin, Michigan
Dianne Feinstein, California
Ron Wyden, Oregon
Evan Bayh, Indiana
Barbara A. Mikulski, Maryland
Jon S. Corzine, New Jersey

Ex Officio Members
Bill Frist, Tennessee
Harry Reid, Nevada
John Warner, Virginia

5 Sigs needed. Last update was that they have 4.

So, are you going to kiss his ass when he gets hearings?

[flpoljunkie]

13. As I said in other post, what are the intel committee Dems waiting for?

Rioting in the streets?

[Pawel K]

20. Thanks for explaining, didn't know that.

I was losing trust in Kerry but it looks like he is trying. However, ayn democrat that refuses to sign on to this needs to be scolded by us.

:toast:

[TayTay]

25. Think about this one

This is the Committee that has oversight on the pre-war intelligence assessments. The paper that was researched and authorized by this committee on this is at their website at: http://intelligence.senate.gov/

This is where an investigation, a real investigation with subpoena power should go. I want action on the DSM as much as anyone else on DU, but I want real action, not something that is 'here today and gone tomorrow.'

Sen. Kerry is not a member of the Senate Select Comm. So he has to go through others or submit a letter. The machinery of Congress does move at a glacier-like pace, but it does move. This is the right thing to do. It may take longer, but it will be official.

If Kerry can get the five sigs, it's out of his hands. (Again, not on that committee.) Then he can give a floor speech or press conference and push for action. But I prefer the real action first.

[Senior citizen]

101. Excuse me?

Is KKKarl also a Skull and Bones fraternity brother of Bush* and Kerry? If not, all Kerry has to do is informally go through fraternity channels to get KKKarl fired. Of course if KKKarl is also a frat brother, nothing can be done and letters are pointless.

[pgh_dem]

37. AHHHHHhhhh! THOSE signatures! Thank you for this update!

I didn't know what his letter was aimed at, I got the impression this was another letter (like Conyers') that was asking * admin to release info/answer questions on DSM.

Couldn't understand, in that context, why one sig would be so important... clearly 1 sig is very very important when trying to get an intel committee hearing.

Are you sure they only have 4...I thought the word was they were waiting on 1 sig. Doesn't mean they don't have enough sigs, but maybe they're waiting on a fence-sitting repub (Roberts or Hagel) to lend 'bipartisanship' to the investigation.

[TayTay]

39. Select Committee on Intel is secretive by nature

This is a committee where most of the meetings are done behind closed doors. We have to wait and hear. No one knows (outside of Sen Kerry I guess.) But the rules of the committee that I quoted state that you need 5 sigs to get a meeting. They need the 5th sig. I have no idea if they are going for a Repub or not. (Sorry, that is pretty inside baseball for me.)

[LittleClarkie]

42. Can you link to the thread where Kerrygoddess talked about this

Thanks. It would save me some sifting.

[TayTay]

44. I don't have the link LC

Sorry.

Also, there are other things that I don't know about this process of getting sigs and getting a hearing for the Intel Comm.

-- Can the Rethugs thwart hearings even with the 5 sigs?

-- If the Rethugs decide to thwart hearings even with the five sigs, what happens next? (Kerry will get no credit for doing anything as it will be a case of 'the dog that didn't bark.' If nothing happens, then how can you report on it.

-- If there are no official hearings, can Kerry & other Dems petition Sen. Reid for the unofficial Senatorial Democratic Investigative Hearings, like the ones they held on the false Mercury Report? How else can the DSM enter the dialogue on Capitol Hill?

I don't know the answers to this.

[pgh_dem]

71. When does the Cong recess start?

IOW, what kinda deadline does Kerry have?

[FreedomAngel82]

40. I think Hagel would be easy to get to

He recently came out publically about Iraq. So maybe if enough people pressure him he could sign it on. I'm glad to hear this about Kerry!

[pgh_dem]

76. Raw story says Kerry's letter leaked, link here

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2005/kerry_downing_street_letter_624.htm

It says signed by Senators Johnson, Corzine, Reed, Lautenberg, Boxer, Kennedy, Harkin, Bingaman, and Durbin. By my count (assuming that was meant to be Reid, not Reed), that's only 2 of the Dems from the Intel Committee.

So where's that leave us?

[laugle]

84. I'll lite a fire under Feinstein's butt!! n/t

[Dr Fate]

49. I never got a Kerry email about the DSM either. Why not?

Seems like a much bigger issue than what Rove said at a fundraiser.

[JDPriestly]

6. Done.

Thanks.

[Sydnie]

7. Done, kicked and nominated! n/t

[bullimiami]

9. i agree with that one.

rove belongs in jail with the rest of them.

[Hidden Stillness]

10. Go Kerry!

Just signed it, with message "Republicans are destroying our country."

[flakey_foont]

11. Done

[johnaries]

12. done, kicked, and recommended. n/t

[dsewell]

14. Call White House comment line, too

202-456-1111

I usually don't bother, given B*sh's well-known indifference to "polls and focus groups" (aka the will of the people), but he needs his ear chewed off on this one.

[holboz]

15. Done.

How can Bush and the Rethugs keep complaining that the Dems won't work with them when they work so hard to keeps us apart with their outrageous and reckless comments?

[FreedomAngel82]

41. With that way

they can say we're not corporating and they can be the "victims" all the time. They don't want to work with us because they know we don't want their schedule and their plans. That way they'll still find a way to blame the democrats.

[Mass]

16. Here is the email that was sent with the petitopm.

Dear friend,

Just hours after learning about an outrageous speech delivered by Karl Rove, President Bush's most senior advisor, I went to the Senate floor -- and I spoke from my heart. I want to share those words with you -- not as a Democrat or Republican, not as a liberal or conservative -- but as an American.

I've attached part of my speech to the end of this email. But, before you read what I said, look again at what Karl Rove said:

(P)erhaps the most important difference between conservatives and liberals can be found in the area of national security. Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.

I hope you will join me right now in signing an open letter to the President urging him to thoroughly reject Karl Rove's purposeful attack on the patriotism of those who dare ask the tough questions that best protect American troops. Sign our open letter to President Bush now:

http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/rove.php

This isn't the first time that Karl Rove and other White House officials have sought to divide America in ways that make it harder to keep our country safe and our democracy strong. But, it should be the last. That's why I ended my speech with a call on President Bush to fire Karl Rove. It is the only way the President can make it clear that he rejects Rove's effort to distort one of the most unified and patriotic moments in American history into a cheap, divisive, political applause line.

That, of course, is what is most outrageous about Karl Rove's claim that President Bush's political opponents offered "therapy and understanding for our attackers." It isn't true. In the days after 9/11, there were no Democrats, no Republicans. We were all Americans, standing together. President Bush acknowledged that unity in a clear and compelling way at the time.

Now, Karl Rove is purposely twisting those days of unity in order to divide us for political gain. I hope you will act right now to join a growing chorus of Americans calling on the President to fire Karl Rove.

http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/rove.php

Please act right now. Sign our open letter to the President and pass it on to others. All Americans have to speak with one powerful voice in response to this outrage. I will continue speaking out and I know I can count on you to stand with me.

Sincerely,

John Kerry

[FLPolitico]

17. Why are we wasting so much time on signing a damn petition

Instead of being outraged over what Turd Blossom said we need to be sending money and spending time to help organize the various state parties especially in Ohio and Florida. There is no way we can win in '08 and beyond if the Democrats don't win one preferablly both of these states due to the shift of electoral votes from Democratic strongholds in the NE to the South ( especially FL) andthe SW.

The problem is in Ohio every statewide elected office is held by a Rethugs and there will be no election reform on the federal level until after 2008 and that's if at least we win back the White House and one chamber of Congress and we won't be able to win the White House in '08 unless we control the voting apparatus in Ohio and/or Florida and only way to do that is to elect a progressive Secretary of State in OH and progessive Democratic governor in FL (of course currently the Secretary of State is 'appointed' by the Governor).

Let's use our time and money productively instead of allowing them to distract us!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and WTF is wrong with Maine. It voted for Kerry last year but it has two Rethug US Senators who can't get their noses far enough up *'s butt.

[Pacifist Patriot]

21. It took me three seconds to sign the petition.

So instead of putting an extra dollop of half and half in my coffee I took some time to sign the petition. Leaves me plenty of time to kick butt in other areas.

[jarnocan]

24. It doesn't take that long to click and sign, of course we need to do more.

http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/rove.php
these lies are obnoxious! The lies are coming out constantly - this has to be stopped.
Sure do more go beyond, being an elctronic blip. but guess what -if we do NOT get an impeachment on either the Downing ST. Memo related grounds, or elections fraud, or at the VERY LEAST get Russ Holt's bill 550 VERIFIED Voting/ Verified Elections passed, I don't have much hope of things getting better!
Because if we can't get the truth out- they win, the terrorists win also- because our democracy and quality of life will spiral down hill. jarnocan.blogspot.com NoBu**Sh**zone

[wildflower]

19. Why I really like these comments:

I've been very concerned that recent RW statements are a trap for Democrats to try and prove that they're "just as tough as Republicans," so that

1. Democrats will go along with whatever new bellicose policy is pursued. (Consider: (a) Goss has said they can't go after Bin Laden because of too much "respect for sovereign nations"; (b) elsewhere (Fox?) it's been speculated that Bin Laden could be in Iran; and (c) Bush is making a major speech on Tuesday.)

2. Democrats will keep mum on the torture photos in order not to look too 'soft.'

Yesterday there was even a Newsday poll posted that asked whether Democrats are too soft on terrorists.

Kerry's response above doesn't say "We are too as tough as you!" It focuses on Rove and on Americans. (And elsewhere Kerry has said that the people owed an apology are the 9/11 victims' families.)

And while the DNC response (http://www.democrats.org/blog/comment/00012258.html) is generally good, I fear it may play into what I outlined above.

-wildflower

[CitrusLib]

22. Done.

[wiggs]

23. This makes me angry

Rove stirs up an ant hill with an intentionally inflamatory remark and the dems run around all outraged demanding apologies and writing petitions.

LAST WEEK we learn that Abu Ghraib photos and videos will be released and will show far worse than we've seen (and congress has seen them already by the way), a multitude of sources point to WMD deception and illegal invasion, and more information surfaces that we used napalm in Iraq.

THIS WEEK, we hear from the CIA and the Pentagon that Iraq is in far worse shape than our adminsitration is telling us, that everyone knew the Iraq invasion was illegal, and that Halliburton may have just been awarded another 1 billion for more prisons in Cuba......

....and all of this generates far less attention than Rove stepping out and dropping a stink bomb.

I'm for dem leaders denouncing these remarks...BUT FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, HIT HARD AND MOVE ON TO REAL ISSUES THAT REALLY MATTER. This sideshow is a waste of time.

[confludemocrat]

46. Yeah, I signed it but said you should do much more than a petition

and admit finally that we must withdraw now.

[calimary]

78. So did I, and you're correct, we have to do a LOT more than this.

A LOT more. Drop mentions of IMPEACHMENT and the Downing Street Minutes with your EVERY breath - every chance you get - to every sort of person, both your reps and other civilians. Give money if you can to your local Democratic or liberal organizations.

I'm afraid the White House will look at any petition from John Kerry and laugh hysterically as they hit the delete button. Kerry's heart is in the correct place, but his mind is not. He should be hitting this a LOT harder. And in public. Why doesn't he hold a few press conferences or other media events? Why doesn't he make more noise?

[wiggs]

98. Another public disclosure that congress should have focused on...

....I want to add to the list of recent important news items that congress should be focusing on instead of Rove:

a couple of weeks ago Department of Homeland Securtiy Chief Ridge declared that there were times when he didn't believe raising the security alert level was warranted, but was over-ridden by the WH.

Another potential investigation down the memory hole.

[Verve]

26. No one here really believes Shrub would actually fire his right hand man?

This guy is actually Shrub's brain! It's just not possible. Rove can run circles around many including the prez. It just won't happen. We should focus on hitting Rove were it hurts, in his puppet Shrub! That's where the power is. Rove can't deal without power.

[ComerPerro]

27. Signed and Kicked in less than 15 seconds

;)

[WLKjr]

28. done

[justsomegirl]

29. Done-Here's what I added...

Ask the 1,700+ Americans killed in Iraq if they would have prefered "moderation", or instead an admiinistration who manipulated the truth, lied to the world and ruined a nation that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks in order to attain their geo-economic goals at any cost to this nation's economic well being.

[Blue Belle]

30. Done!

[ChiciB1]

31. Done...

I liked the way it was set up to forward to others right away!

[melissinha]

32. Rove was speaking the truth MOSTLY

Its just a "point of view" .... but the whole therapy thing was cheap and insulting...

Rove got two things right in his statement " Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war." thats fair: a war on Osama Bin Laden... Thats the type of additude that Rove shows for his political enemies... you attack without thinking! But the war on Iraq?

The other sentence that I agree with was " Liberals saw what happened to us and said we must understand our enemies." You are damned straight.. but I see that statement differently, we want to understand the enemy so that we can negotiate diplomatically without having to spend trillions of $$ and thousands of lives so that you can illegally hand over duffel bags full of cash to your friends without a paper trail.

HOWEVER, he made a statement that infuriated me: I am deeply offended that Karl Rove would accuse ME personally, without knowing ME of wanting to "offer therapy and understanding for our attackers"???? Rove doesn't know ME, Rove doesn't know other democrats ... democrats IN THE SERVICE or any American citizen's motivation for that matter. Honestly the only threat to our national security is Karl Rove and his band of thieves with their refusal to cooperate with other nations and to hand oil fields over to oil companies. Get out of my country!!!!

[m_welby]

33. Done n/t

[ms liberty]

34. Done

edited to add:
my comment:

I am outraged and insulted that Karl Rove, and many in the GOP, continue to demonize and slander anyone who disagrees with their "agenda". I AM A LIBERAL AND IF KARL ROVE AND THE GOP DOESN'T LIKE IT THAT IS JUST TOO DAMN BAD. Liberalism and progressive beliefs are as American as apple pie. Religious zealotry is NOT.

[Blue_In_AK]

35. Done. n/t

[DisassemblingHisLies]

36. Done!

I wrote:

After hearing Rove speak about the Democrats, I can see why there's so much divisiveness in this country. I can also see why there are so many lies coming from this administration. He's the senior *advisor* who comes up with "fantastic" ideas such as excluding those American taxpayers from hearing the president speak at public events because they have a different party affiliation. He's the one who comes up with the dirty, below-the-belt smear tactics against those they fear. He's the one who calls the media, particularly the radio hate show hosts, to give them direction & talking points in his character assassination game. Well, let me tell you, Mr. Senior Advisor, you're only hurting this country by keeping it divided. You're a despicable human being that even George H.W. Bush wouldn't have anything to do with. A man of your character has no business advising anyone in a government "of, for, & by the People." You should be run out of town ASAP.

[FreedomAngel82]

38. Done!

I doubt it'd happen since Rumsfeld is still there.

[Goldeneye]

43. done.

[LittleClarkie]

45. Boy I got wordy on that one

But here's what I wrote:

"WHERE IS BIN LADEN! If the Republicans are so good at taking the fight to the enemy, why is the true enemy of 9/11 still free? No, the Repbublicans are much better at involking the specter of 9/11 for political gain than they are at actually keeping us safe.

I, along with many Americans, stood with a candle in my hand, honoring the victims of 9/11 on that first Friday after it happened. We were unified then. I was willing to give Bush the benefit of the doubt then. He took that unity and that trust and used it for political gain. Neither he nor Rove should be allowed to do that any more.

I am a Democrat, a Christian and an American. I am sick of being made to feel like a second-hand Christian and a second-hand American for the simple reason that I *AM* a Democrat.

FIRE KARL ROVE!"

[flpoljunkie]

51. Excellent, LittleClarkie!

[katinmn]

47. Done!

[Dr Fate]

48. Why doesn't he email out a DSM petition?

Oh that's right- its not "safe" like criticising some dude the average voter has never even heard of.

[flpoljunkie]

50. Would rather he work on getting one more member of intel committee to

get a hearing on the Downing Street memo and the Bush adminstration use of intelligence.

Remember Chairman Pat Roberts said there would be an investigation of whether the Bush administration misused the intelligence they were given in the runup to the war in Iraq after the election (so as not to politicize the election), but amazingly enough, since Dubya won the election in November, Roberts has remained silent on this issue.

[Dr Fate]

52. I doubt the Top Democrats will do anything about the DSM.

They wont even talk about it on TV.

They want it to just go away.

That is my gut at this point-the Base has begged and begged- but they could not even help Conyers promote his hearings- they never even mention those hearings on TV.

But now they can attack Rove on internet sites and say "See- we DO fight Bush- now, about that check."

The pattern is clear to me. Avoid controversial issues except in forums that donors see. Only get high-profile (On TV) about "safe" issues- as not to upset swing voters.

It's a strategy that I disagree with.

[flpoljunkie]

57. The best place for DSM to go forward is in the intel committee. JK needs

one more committee member to sign his letter requesting an investigation.

I do agree with you about the Democratic leadership timidity, but I like the things the "tough as nails" Harry Reid has said.

[Dr Fate]

58. the best place for DSM is PUBLIC DISCOURSE around water coolers.

otherwise it will all die behind closed doors.

Then DEMs will say "Oh nooo- we tried to fight Bush, but the Republicans killed it in comittee- we didnt have the numbers- so sorry- now, about that check..."

The best way to make this big is to get the public talking about it. You cant get the public to talk about it if the Top Democrats cant talk about it.

[flpoljunkie]

59. We will continue to speak out, but don't give up on John Kerry just yet.

There is no reason that all of the Democrats on the Intelligence Committee not to sign Kerry's letter calling for the investigation Roberts promised.

There will be a problem if one of the five signatures required must come from the Republicans on the committee.

Link to post regarding this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1882348&mesg_id=1882375

[Dr Fate]

61. You get the DSM off the ground is by inserting it into public discourse

That is just my opinion.

I've offically given up on Kerry and Dean on this- they are blowing it.

They could not even help Conyers promote his hearings. Where was the mass email alerts on the hearings?????

Seems they can send out an email on "safe issues" every week, so I know they have time.


I see the writting on the wall- the DSM is "too hot"- they will ignore it in public and pretend they are "working on it behind closed doors."

When it dies down they will say "we tried- but the GOP/media is to blame- now about that check..."

It will work on most, but not on me.

[TayTay]

60. It is possible that the Dems are trying to get

hearings. Official hearings. Anything official means that you have to go through the committee procedures which takes longer. Plus, Kerry is not on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, which makes it harder to affect the hearing process. (I think this also means, but I am not sure, that if there is a hearing, it won't involve direct input from Kerry, except maybe as a witness. So, even if he wins, it's a hand-off. Is this right?)

Yesterday's hearing on Iraq in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee was great. Levin, Kennedy and Byrd really lit into Rumsfeld yesterday. It was the front page of lots of US newspapers and was on all the TV news shows. I would like to see something like this on DSM. I think that required subpoena power. That means official hearings.

What else do you want done to get the DSM into the public square. I think Kerry's idea of getting the Sen. Intel Comm to hold hearings is a good one. Maybe it will get print and TV coverage which might push the issue further into the public arena. So, you go through the process.

[Dr Fate]

62. What happens when they dont get the hearings? (And they wont.)

Then they'll say- "Oh well, we tried, time to move on- now about that check..."

That is my gut at this point. They wont go on TV and raise the issue- but they can point to these closed door conversations they say they are having- that we or no one else will never hear- and then blame the media.

They dont WANT this to be an issue. The "strategists" have ruled that it is "too hot- Micheal Moore stuff...turns off swing voters..."

If they did want it to be an issue, they would all be on TV floating trial ballons.

[TayTay]

65. I addressed this up thread but

if the official hearings don't happen (and I think it is worth the try, this is the committee that put out at least one Pre-War Intel Assessment report) then Harry Reid should go for unofficial Democratic Senatorial Investigative hearings. They have done this a couple of times this year. They did it on the waste of money associated with the contracts in Iraq and they did one on the Mercury Report. (There may have been more, but I saw some of those two hearings.)

The problem with this is that these are unofficial hearings without subpoena power. So, you can't compel a witness to testify. Also, the press coverage is spotty and is done if the press feels like doing it. (Which is very dicey at best.) The other criticism I have of these Dem Committees is that the Dems have a very spotty attendance record at them. (Sometimes there is only one Senator present, which doesn't make the hearing look serious.) This is better than nothing, but not as good as an official hearing.

Kerry could make floor speeches and hold a press conference, but I don't think he would get anywhere with it. This is very big deal and it needs to be dealt with as such. I will give the Intel Comm hearing a while longer to work. But I understand the process a little and how it can take a while. The Senate goes on break next Friday and won't return until July 9th. I would bet that hearings couldn't possibly take place until after that. (Maybe way after that.)

The Democrats do not have the power to call hearings in this Congress. They control neither the committees, the purse or subpoena power. It is extremely difficult to get anything investigated that Rethug don't want investigated. How do you get around that?

[Dr Fate]

68. Or, all the "star" Democrats could bring it up everytime they go on TV.

And get the whole country talking about it.

We dont necessarily need offical investigations- and we will never get them anyway. All we need is a strong public perception that these memos show that Bush lied.

If we were not so scared to go on TV and make charges, we could use it as a huge wedge issue in 2006 & 2008- since most Americans are now realizing that they were lied too.

I dont even know why I spin my wheels- I can see that this issue is DEAD.

The writing is on the wall- the DEM "strategists" have ruled that it is "too hot."

[Al-CIAda]

66. Just like Gannon, just like STOLEN ELECTIONS, just like PNAC,

just like all the other treasons, murders, and mountainous crimes committed by the Bushco junta.

THIS is why the Dems FAIL to capitalize on any discontent. The Dems are the pussy party of false opposition.

[Dr Fate]

69. DEMs are the party of "safe" issues when on TV- they only get tough online

Sure- they say all kinds of tough things online or on CSPAN where donors and political junkies can see it- but on regular TV it's all "safe" stuff.

When their non "safe" stuff winds up on TV, they dutifully apologize for it.

I see the pattern. I understand.

[mcar]

53. Done, thanks

[Stand and Fight]

54. Signed with the following comment:

Bush, if you are truly a uniter, then you will stop condoning these divisive and thuggish attacks on the Democratic party. Enough is enough. You are creating a situation that shall change the social, economic, and political situation in this country for the worst. Be a man and do the right thing for once in your life. Your administration is a cancer on this nation; whereas, we were once loved and admired, we are now despised because of your policies. Do us all a favor – fire Rove and RESIGN!

[paineinthearse]

55. Done

[AntiCoup2K4]

56. This petition will never work.

Doesn't Kerry know who it is that reads Junior's mail to him in the first place? :evilgrin:

[NightOwwl]

63. Apology/resignation is the wrong tactic...

I'll admit I was in the "Rove should resign bandwagon" yesterday. But he has given us the perfect opportunity to point out, in no uncertain terms, that BushCo screwed up big time. Check out the DNC website:

Rove is right: there are differences
http://www.democrats.org/blog/comment/00012258.html

Forget calling for Rove's resignation. The focus should be on these talking points and the fact that BUSH IS A MISERABLE FAILURE!

[flpoljunkie]

82. Let's do both! Carville was singing this same tune today, but it is

seen by the voters as what it is--surrender from the hapless Democrats.

Never again!

[myrna minx]

64. Done. n/t

[Justice]

67. Done

[Ivote]

70. Done

n/t
:kick:

[JABBS]

72. Conservative hypocrisy

FYI -- I have an article at JABBS, at http://jabbs.blogspot.com, that includes the White House reaction to Rove's comments (they don't want an apology, big surprise).

Check out McClellan's Orwellian responses in the transcript that I've included.

Also, the article talks about the hypocritical stance of conservatives. They yell and scream when a Democrat, such as Dick Durbin, says something questionable. But they are silent when Santorum, Sessions and Norquist say things equally questionable.

[diddlysquat]

73. Done!

[blueblitzkrieg]

74. done nt

[ginnyinWI]

75. kick

:dem:

[NoFederales]

77. Done

NoFederales

[NEDem]

79. done.

[RamboLiberal]

80. Thanks for posting - done

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[Zero Division]

81. Signed!

:patriot:

[laugle]

83. Done, what say we get Conyers to do a

letter to FIRE Tom Daschle too!!!!!!! Let's not forget him!!

[LittleClarkie]

86. Do what now?

Ya lost me, pal. Ya lost me.

Daschle was on our side, and sadly, already got fired, so to speak.

DeLay, maybe?

[laugle]

93. Hey little clarkie, as Gilda Radner would say,

"never mind" oops I meant Tom Delay, I'm sure you knew that, hey is there a big clarkie....

[silver10]

85. Signed, sealed and delivered!

[politicasista]

87. Done and Kick!

:kick: :patriot:

[quaoar]

88. Done.

Rove is a disgusting piece of shit.

[hangloose]

89. IT'S ALL NOISE An attempt to distract, Rove could care less

what anyone thinks of him, he is insulated behind the scenes, and not up for re-election. This was calculated!! in an attempt to shift the discussion from DSM to Rove (meaningless chatter). And it is working we have just devoted another few days to a useless effort of confrontation and back and forth. Rove doesn't care what Democrats think, or about the American people as a whole, not really. He doesn't give a fuck about democracy, its just gets in our way.

Let's stop and focus back on the important shit guys. Venting is OK, but let's focus on getting this thug and his com padres out of the oval office.

[flpoljunkie]

91. We Dems can focus on the DSM and chew out Karl Rove at the same time

[LittleClarkie]

95. Multi-tasking

Damn we're smooth.

[LittleClarkie]

92. It's not Rove's opinion I'm thinking about

Like the Smear vets, we can't just ignore Rove and decide there are more important things to deal with, though there are. What he says about the Dems can't be allowed to stick in the minds of potential voters.

The Smear Vets weren't really worth spit either, and they didn't care if Kerry responded to them either. But bullshit needs an answer.

But you're right, we need to keep up the overall pressure re: Bolton, DSM et al. We'll do a both/and.

[Joey Liberal]

90. Just signed it and passed it along n/t

[FourStarDemocrat]

94. Done. Hope there's a million sigs on it. n/t

[BlueStateBlue]

96. done

[Independent_Liberal]

97. I signed it earlier.

First Kerry goes after Rummy. Now Rove!

[bigwillq]

99. Done---but a question

but can you see the names of the people who signed?

[LiberalAndProud]

100. Signed.

And contacted Hagel too. I daren't hope to change a thing, but could it hurt?

[RobbinsdaleDem]

102. done

[graywarrior]

103. done

[Raksha]

104. Done earlier from my Inbox. n/t

But when is he going to talk about the DSM? I heard he was doing something with the Senate Intelligence Committee--are they going to be doing an investigation or what?

Edited: Read further down the thread and found the answer to my own question.

[LordshipLadyship]

105. done with pleasure

:kick:

[SeattleGirl]

106. Done!