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eyeswideopened Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:33 PM
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Where are all the Clark Supporters on this Forum
Does anyone want to see Clark win the nomination. Seems like he is not getting much coverage by the media or by this forum.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:35 PM
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1. We're here
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 01:35 PM by bicentennial_baby
There are many of us. It's the weekend, and it's primary season, so things are pretty crazy round here right now. Welcome to DU! :hi:
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:55 PM
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30. I'm here! n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:35 PM
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2. We're here
and everywhere
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:36 PM
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7. Were here
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:36 PM
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3. It's obvious that you haven't been here long. n/t
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:36 PM
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4. Is Clark your candidate?
Welcome to DU. :hi:
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maxr4clark Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:36 PM
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5. We're out campaigning...
That's why we haven't been showing up as much in the NH polls. :)

This morning, we were watching the General totally NAIL his performance on Meet The Press.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:36 PM
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6. I am here. :)
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:40 PM
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13. Me too! :)
I actually wish I weren't here. I wish I was in New Hampshire!
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:43 PM
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17. Me too:) I couldn't get the time off work .
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:36 PM
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8. heres one
clark for prez. la la la
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:38 PM
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9. did you watch meet the press ?
clark was on it.if not they will repeat it on cnbc and on nbc early morning i think. i heard the appearance went well.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:38 PM
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10. Still here
He has gotten plenty of coverage lately, problem is Dean self destructed before NH and they weren't planning for that. Now its so tight for second. But Clark will live to fight after NH.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:38 PM
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11. In London
but still keeping up on things Clark.
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Frederic Bastiat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:51 PM
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Cool, i'm in Montreal
Too bad I couldn't make it to NH this weekend.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:12 PM
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47. in Lima
Peru :)
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:39 PM
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12. Present
Clark for President!
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:40 PM
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14. Wes Clark
He will make an extraordinary American President.
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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:41 PM
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15. There are many many here
I see from your post count you are fairly new here. rest assured there are many Clark supporters here.

Within the last few days we as Clark supporters have seen the tag team duo of major media and the repukes doing everything they can between now and NH Tuesday to smear Clark as much as possible to get his total vote count as low as possible. Throw in that also, Kerry and Hollings doing everything they can to LIE about Clark.

Clark at this stage has many obstacles to overcome. This race is far from over. The idea is to stick to message and show guys like Kerry for what they are, lifelong slimeball politicans willing to say anything for a vote!
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:43 PM
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16. Still here
but working on Super Tuesday projects.

Go Wes, Go! All the way to D.C.!
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:43 PM
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18. Here is a report on Clark's media attention today.
My summary of his appearance on Meet The Press:

It was his best TV interview format performance. So often we just say so and so was great, that it loses meaning. This was the best I've seen Clark do. I will give credit to Russet too, he was on good behavior. I guess I disagree with some other posters about that, and I will comment more about Russet below. Clark came across as serious, fluent, sincere, and solid, with the emphasis on solid. Clark was at ease at all times. I was most impressed at how much mastery Clark showed of the political art of turning a question answer into the statement that you want to make. When done poorly it is obvious and clumsy, Clark was nailing it during this interview, and Russet let him speak. At the end of a comment Russet sometimes returned to a point, if he felt Clark slipped past it, which was fair. Clark pulled if off because he did answer Russet's question each time, quickly and efficiently, and then gracefully moved on to what Clark felt was important.

Clark turned Russet's first question about the Moore statement into a discussion about what is important to the voters. Essentially he did that each time the question was rephrased. The way Clark did it was by saying he is concerned about the future, not the past. He said as he has traveled across New Hampshire no voter has asked him about Michael Moore's comments. They talk about the loss of jobs, about health care issues.

Clark shifted easily into talking about his own background, having to move in with his grandparents when his father died and they moved back South. Never having much. Spending most of his time in the military making less than 50 Thousand a year, having to decide if they could afford to get a car repair that month. He talked about parents worrying about paying for braces for their kids teeth, etc. Clark spun into and out of his progressive income tax plan and what it would mean for working families, and he gave specifics. And he did all of that while giving answers to Russet's questions about the Moore statement. The fact that Clark moved so seamlessly into broader policy issues did, I will admit, have something to do with why Russet reframed the question a few times,

The key is Clark never came across as being evasive, instead he was gently dismissive of it as a real issue of concern to voters in New Hampshire now. He oozed confidence, no sense of squirming through an uncomfortable trap. The points Clark made regarding Moore's comments were simple and clear. Clark did say that he himself wouldn't have made that exact characterization, but Clark did not bite on the Moore is insulting the President or Presidency bit, or that Moore was out of bounds in any way, and Clark repeated that he hadn't looked into any of the facts involved. He framed it as a free speech issue without disavowing the content. Clark said he doesn't screen his supporters for what they will might at a rally. He said he saw Moore's comment as an expression of Moore's dissent. Further, and to me this was very important and telling about Clark's character, loyalty and convictions, Clark directly praised Michael Moore within one of his answers, saying that Moore has said a number of important things and made real contributions to America.

Clark was at his populist best when he said an era is over in America, where the assumption can be sold that if you give rich people more money somehow that will translate into more jobs for average Americans. It doesn't. He said the Bush tax agenda has been exposed and discredited. They aren't putting America back to work but he will. After keeping America safe, jobs is his highest priority.

Russet confronted Clark with past statements about promising not to let another incident like 9/11 happen again, and said how can you guarantee it? Clark said he did not offer any guarantees, of course there are no guarantees about anything of this sort. Clark very effectively laid out that scenario whereby Bush took office being warned about the danger of terrorists, but then proceeded to concentrate on a national missile defense system instead. having made no plans to deal with terrorism. Clark said that is failed leadership. Bush did not do everything he could to keep America safe, but that he, Clark, would. Clark said Bush has to be held responsible for his failings in that critical period. Further Clark again explained that while he was glad Hussein was out of power, there were other ways to deal with Hussein at the time other than launching that invasion the way Bush did. No immanent threat. Took our focus off of Bin Laden, who is still out there plotting against America. Regarding the "promise no more incidents like 9/11" " "gotcha" attempt, I think Clark did well.

The only way I think Clark could improve would be to specifically say, "perhaps my comments were not clear enough at the time, and left the impression that I was promising the impossible. Let me make this clear. Under my Administration there will be no more "incidents" of our nation being ill prepared to face and defend against a real threat to our safety, because the President of the United States was uninformed, inattentive, or predisposed for ideological reasons to look elsewhere for a threat, rather than focus on the one that all knowledgeable sources presented as most credible and immanent. That is my promise. It is not only possible for our President to make that guarantee, it is essential that he honor it, and I will." I really think that is the point Clark is making. Mostly it got across, and Clark KEPT THE HEAT ON BUSH for 9/11.

At one point Clark commented on how the Bush Administration cooked the intelligence to fit their ideological and political agenda. Russet said that was a serious charge, and could Clark back it, AND CLARK COULD! He was masterful in that segment, citing an intentionally leaked highly classified memo that the Bush administration used to buttress their claim of a link between Hussein and Bin Ladin link. Clark pointed out that it is standard national security policy to never comment on a leaked classified National Security document, for national security reasons. Doing so can compromise sources and methods used to gather intelligence, and it is not done, but the Bush Administration hyped the contents after they were "leaked". Very powerful stuff.

Clark was confronted with Kerry campaign negative flyers against Clark, and negative emails from Kerry's campaign sent out to the media over this weekend, about Clark's alleged Republican lobbying and cashing in on his military career. Clark firmly stuck to the high road. He said nothing negative about Kerry. Clark quickly ran down an overview of his own career and the breadth of his experiences, including his work in the private sector after leaving the military, and framed his private sector experience rounding out his career and better preparing him for the Presidency. He did not act or sound defensive. Clark did not dwell on it because he wanted to talk about the issues, and for a change, he was not letting his limited air time be dominated by responding to attacks made against him.

Clark was also asked about the need for all the candidates to secure some Primary victories by Feb. 3rd. Clark agreed that victories were needed, and he would get them, but did not quite nail himself to Feb. 3rd though he did cite his strength in a number of states voting on Feb. 3rd and after. Clark went out of his way to praise his grass roots volunteer movement and the commitment so many have made to his effort, both in New Hampshire and around the country. Clark fielded his "Republican past" one more time, this in the context of his older votes for some Republican Presidents, and he handled it smoothly, saying his vision of the Democratic party was one that was welcoming in disaffected Americans of various political leanings, to turn around our country form the crisis we are in, and he can reach those people. He said people grow, nimbly implying that he had certainly grown over the years since Nixon.

That's about it. Remember Clark did not have a full hour this time. He did a remarkable job of responding to all the hits out against him, while keeping his cool, and making his points. A remarkable performance all in all. One more time I will state. Clark has shown huge courage to stand his ground and not disavow Moore, despite wilting fire being directed against him. By doing so Clark keeps the issue of Bush's war record in the realm of public debate, where it will remain as long as Clark remains a viable candidate for the Democratic nomination, because they will keep going at him regarding it, I am sure of that. If Clark goes down, the issue most likely will go down with him, because it will then be seen as a big reason why Clark lost support, Kerry's comments made sure of that. On that basis alone I will say, if you are still wavering between candidates to back, and consider Clark among those worthy of your support, he has clearly earned it with this one. If we don't reward him for this stand, who will? This wouldn't be a bad time to donate money to his campaign either.

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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:43 PM
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19. Well...
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 01:44 PM by incapsulated
I guess there is one person who doesn't think there are too many of us on DU. ;)
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:36 PM
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53. Hey, is that a Studebaker? And I'm for Clark too. WE ARE LEGION! n/t
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:48 PM
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20. ROFTLMAO!!!
You made my day...thanks for posting this!
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:49 PM
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21. Hehe
Funny question, eh? :hi:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:49 PM
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22. See what I mean? ;^)
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:49 PM
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23. Here ! as is Mrs. StClone
Clark/Edwards in '04!
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eyeswideopened Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:51 PM
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24. I Pro Clark or Dean - Can't Decide yet
I was leaning towards Dean and in my heart I think he probably would be the best president for America ... BUT ... Clark is a General and we are in a messy war that needs to be cleaned up. I think we may need a 4 star general to get us out of this mess that we can't just walk away from. Also I used to think he had a better chance of beating Bush. Plus whoever wins this nomination also has to fight the media to win. So right now I 51% Dean and 49% Clark.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:53 PM
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26. Although you won't find many commrads..
on DU (Clark/Dean types), Welcome aboard!
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:58 PM
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34. Have you watched any of Clark's
town hall meetings? (avail on CSPAN and at www.Clark04.com) That's the best way to turn your 49%Clark into a 99%Clark!

There's just SO much more to him than his military background! He's absolutely brilliant and compassionate and articulate and handsome and presidential, and scares the crap out of the right wing, who is already doing their best to get ANYONE else the Dem nomination!



:hi: welcome to DU! :hi:
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:00 PM
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38. as a clark supporter, i love them both
and i feel that clark is the better candidate for me.

he will be a leader who can actually implement the policies he proposes, even in a republican legistlature. (which i find very appealing)

and i believe he will press a much stronger campaign against bush*
than the other candidates.

and he's a fabulous human being. i just love im ta pieces.

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:52 PM
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25. HELLO!!! We're all over the place!
:hi:
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:54 PM
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27. I have decided in the last couple of days that Clark is my man.
I will be happy with any of them and am ABB first but I would like to see Clark win the nomination.

I watched MTP this morning and was so pissed (it sealed the deal for me) when Clark came out and said, "I am pro-choice" and then the talking dick heads went on to say that he stumbles on the issue of abortion. How much more clear can you get?????????
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:57 PM
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33. For some...
Anything less than writing "I am in support of X issue" one hundred times in ten foot tall letters across the side of the supreme court building will never be enough. And you had better have done it yesterday, ten years ago, and plan to do it tommorow. :)
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:16 PM
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48. Excellent
:)
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:55 PM
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28. Present!
:)
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:55 PM
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29. You've just been looking in the wrong places
We're here in force.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:56 PM
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31. I'm a kerry person who wishes Clark the best. Wes's going to stay in the
race and make Chimpy accountable.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:57 PM
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32. We're busy trying to get him elected. e/o/m
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:58 PM
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35. here
:) He was on MTP and ABC with George S(neverspellitright). :)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:59 PM
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36. I'm here!
Clark's the man! :hi:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:59 PM
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37. Speaking of being places..
Is anyone planning to go to SC (or anywhere else aside from their home state) to help with campaigning? Because I will if I can.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:00 PM
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39. Present and accounted for....
currently busy responding to media onslaught of smears......

They don't want Clark....but we do.

Who shall win?

We may not or we may....but I will go down kicking and biting, if I have to.

Clark is the one that can beat Bush and everyone knows it.

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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:02 PM
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40. I'm here and I'm not going anywhere!
Clark has my unwavering support!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:03 PM
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41. R U kidding?
the whole forum's been about him today, and pretty much straight through since Thursday.

The GOP media have set their sights on him, and the General makes them look like little kids with their stupid attacks. Man, am I glad to have him on our side.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:03 PM
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42. Xultar is In dA House!
:hi: Welcome to DU! :hi:

Today, instead of doing a lot of blabbering, I thought I would just listen to everyone else today.
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AbbeyRoad Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:04 PM
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43. Here I am. [n/t]
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:11 PM
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45. Clark be da man
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:09 PM
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44. DeepModem Mom here....
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:12 PM
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46. Accounted for and Present!
:kick:
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1songbird Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:16 PM
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49. Clark supporter here front and center.
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 02:18 PM by 1songbird
I haven't posted much lately because I've been actively working on his campaign here in Cincy. I've sent out lots of letters to different organizations throughout the city as well as door to door canvassing. Everyday I call in to our local liberal station to talk up the good points about Clark. Cincy will be a battleground state so I'm doing not just talking.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:18 PM
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50. One critique I've never heard
present and accounted for.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:31 PM
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51. We're here
n/t

MzPip
:dem:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:32 PM
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52. here, and just wrote CBS
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:38 PM
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54. This place has been ClarkUnderground for a while.
Once the primary is over, fortunately, it will be KerryUnderground. :D
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dae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:38 PM
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55. Present :-)
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:45 PM
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56. Still on Board
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