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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 04:59 PM
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Brzezinski speaks truth to power re 9/11, Iraq in Dems radio response!
Brzezinski really calls the Bush adminstration out and lays it on the line regarding 9/11 and Iraq. Worth listening to in its entirety.

http://wtop.com/index.php?sid=172&nid=92

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Zbigniew Brzezinski, Former National Security Advisor - 06/25/05

http://wtop.com/index.php?sid=172&nid=92

http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view.bg?articleid=91521

Brzezinski Alleges Incompetence in Iraq Effort

By Associated Press
Saturday, June 25, 2005 - Updated: 11:22 AM EST

WASHINGTON- As President Bush tries to shore up support for his Iraq policy, Democrats continue to lament the increasing violence and rising U.S. casualty count.

During remarks in the Democrats' weekly radio address, President Carter's national security chief Zbigniew Brzezinski said the war has been conducted with "tactical and strategic incompetence.''

And he notes because of the war, "America finds itself more isolated than ever before'' and the object of unprecedented international mistrust.

Brzezinski adds, "Patriotism and love of country does not demand endless sacrifice'' of America's troops.

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Brzezinski argues that the Bush administration used 9/11 to go into Iraq, that no one has been held accountable for sending troops to war without proper intelligence, equipment and a plan to win the war, and that Bush must now move forward in a responsible way to implement what is necessary for success in Iraq, and that demands honesty and real leadership.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 05:04 PM
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1. He's not liked by many DU'ers whom I trust...so is this the "blowback?"
The shadow Govt. that might be more benign than the PNAC'ers but just as deadly? They offer the velvet glove over the hammer?

It's good to see this and Brezinski sounds good when I hear him "lately"...BUT..:shrug:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 05:14 PM
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2. I cannot disagree with a word he said, and it needs saying by someone with
the authority and standing to say it.
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weldon berger Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 05:47 PM
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5. He's one of the Council on Foreign Relations crowd,
most of whom were skeptical about the invasion in the first place and would prefer to have a US that could threaten the use of force without actually having to use it, to one that is actually using force to such an extent that it can't threaten to use it anymore. For instance, we're now in a position where no matter how much we mouth off about Iran's alleged nuclear weapons program, we can't actually do anything about it without running the risk of seeing a half-million Iranian troops roll into Iraq in response.

So that's what's pissing these guys off. They favor diplomacy backed by force, but if the force is in serious trouble then the diplomacy doesn't go so well even when one hasn't already alienated the rest of the world.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:22 PM
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6. He's just mad at Bush for messing up the war & our world game
through "tactical and strategic incompetence"; the war itself, stealing their oil, all of that is A-ok, but losing the war is not.

A quick read of his book “The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives,” explains why he's so pissed off. Bush messed it up and gave the entire game plan away. They'll never get another chance like this again because the entire world, more importantly American citizens, are on to their disgusting game now.

This war was in bi-partisan planning for many years. Brzezinski's as bad as they are and his book was a blueprint for PNAC- he's just smarter about it because he's a brilliant man.

Mike Ruppert has a pretty good analysis of Brzezinski's book here: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/zbig.html

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In 1981, Congressman Larry McDonald called for comprehensive congressional investigation of the CFR and Trilateral Commission. Congress is urged to investigate these organizations. Zbignew Brezinski (CFR/TLC member and appointed National Security Advisor during Jimmy Carter’s presidency in 1976) in his book “The Grand Chessboard” page 40: “To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together."

Dr. Johannes Koeppl, seconded from the German defense ministry to NATO in the late 1970s: “Brzezinski's book is sublimely arrogant. While singing the praises of the IMF and the World Bank, which have economically terrorized nations on every continent, and while totally ignoring the worldwide terrorist actions of the U.S. government that have led to genocide; cluster bombings of civilian populations from Kosovo, to Laos, to Iraq, to Afghanistan; the development and battlefield use of both biological and chemical agents such as sarin gas; and the financial rape of entire cultures it would leave the reader believing that such actions are for the good of mankind.” "In 1983/4 I warned of a take-over of world governments being orchestrated by these people. There was an obvious plan to subvert true democracies, and selected leaders were not being chosen based upon character but upon their loyalty to an economic system run by the elites and dedicated to preserving their power. All we have now are pseudo-democracies."

While, Dr. Johannes Koeppl met with Brzezinski in the White House on more than one occasion. His other Washington contacts included Steve Larabee from the CFR, John J. McCloy, former CIA Director, economist Milton Friedman, and officials from Carter's Office of Management and Budget. He soon realized that Brzezinski was part of a group intending to impose a world dictatorship. Koeppl recalls meeting U.S. Congressman Larry McDonald, then contemplating a run for the Presidency, who was a severe critic of these elites. He was killed in the Russian shoot down of Korean Air flight 007 in 1983 which Koeppl believes might have been an assassination.

Koeppl warnings, through Op-Ed pieces published in NEWSWEEK and elsewhere, that Brzezinski and the CFR were part of an effort to impose a global dictatorship brought a swift fall from grace. "It was a criminal society that I was dealing with. It was not possible to publish anymore in the so-called respected publications. My 30 year career in politics ended.

Today, this is Koeppl's warning: "This is more than a war against terrorism. This is a war against the citizens of all countries. The current elites are creating so much fear that people don't know how to respond. But they must remember. This is a move to implement a world dictatorship within the next five years. There may not be another chance."

www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000129.htm

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"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multicultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."

Brzezinski
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 05:15 PM
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3. It seems like the imperialists are arguing about the best course...
of action to bring about US global dominance.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 05:43 PM
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4. Just give him a spot
http://www.usacc.org/contents.php?cid=2

on the future US-Iraq Chamber of Commerce, and he'll be fine.
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