How many posters here still have Kucinich for first or second choice?

[mvd]

This is a roll call. I'm staying with Kucinich as my #1 until he drops out.

[XanaDUer]

1. Me, second along with Edwards.

eom.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

2. DK is my first choice

I like Edwards, Dean, and Sharpton too.

[pop goes the weasel]

3. me too

He is the person raising the issues of the next 8 years. Regardless of what happens to his candidacy this year, the longer he stays in, the more other people start to talk about DK's issues. And he stays in as long as his supporters stay with him.

[KoKo]

4. Second Choice.....although I know it's hard for him to hang in much longer

Glad we have him!

[MuseRider]

5. First choice

I am sticking with him, will caucus for him and will continue to work for him and send a little cash when I can.

[Cheesehead]

6. I'm with Dennis any time he is on the ballot.

Like him, I'm taking a reasoned position and sticking with it - no politicking or waffling.

[judy]

7. Me! He is still my first choice!

Although I did not quite get the Edwards deal.
I am also afraid that he will not make it to California so I won't be able to vote for him in the primaries.

It is unbelievable to me that he got so few votes in Iowa, and that he is so far down in the polls. People keep following the Media's bias, and call him weird. WEIRD? How dare the media call DK weird when we have a smirking whacko sociopath currently occupying the WH, that they call "strong" and "presidential" ?

Why is it always "weird" to make Peace to obtain Peace, when it is "normal" to supposedly wage war to make Peace.
AAaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhh!!!

I also can't believe all the hoopla about Dean and his speech. If he wants to dance the hoky poky to entertain his followers, that's his business. This was not a policy speech or anything. Oh, why do I even bother listening to the radio or watching TV...(I have given up on CNN and MSNBC, though).

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

8. I do

N/T

[_NorCal_D_]

9. Kucinich is my second.

He would make a superb VP.

[AP]

10. He's my second favorite.

But I think the chances are that I'll be voting for Clark or Kerry before I'd be voting for Kucinich.

[Bill Wade]

11. Me.

The list: Dean, Kucinich, Edwards, Kerry.

[Rainbows]

42. Welcome to DU ....

Kucinich until the end. Welcome to DU Bill :-)

[truizm]

12. DK is my first choice

[Lydia Leftcoast]

13. Me

I'm not only going to caucus for him, I'm going to try to organize my precinct.

No other candidate even comes close to matching my views, and at the very least, I want him to have some delegates at the convention.

[TLM]

14. Kucinich is hanging in as my number 2 behind Dean.

followed by edwards in 3rd

[mike_c]

15. Kucinich is and will be my first choice until the GE....

eom

[Tinoire]

16. First Choice n/t

[sleipnir]

17. ME!!! Kucinich 1st, Clark 2nd, Dean 3rd, Sharpton 4th.

Dennis is still the man and he'll get my vote in the Primary!

[MuseRider]

19. Are you back in Kansas?

If so we need to get together to organize for the caucus. If not, PM me. I could use a list of people you know who support him if you would not mind. For some reason I thought you were supporting Dean or I would have contacted you earlier about this.

[MMT]

18. my first choice

[Zomby Woof]

20. Oh yeah

Kucinich is the very best in the running. His voice is too important to dismiss in this camapign, no matter what happens.

[leftbend]

21. First Choice

I'll be there for him as long as he is in the race.

[iowapeacechief]

22. Kucinich is still my first choice...

...followed by Kerry.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

23. first choice..absolutely no contest

TWL

[plurality]

24. #1 until the end. n/t

[AnAmerican]

25. He is, was and will be, my #1

All the way to the Democratic Convention.

[snoochie]

26. I'm with you - Kucinich is my first choice

and he will be until he's nominated or drops out. :)

[youngred]

27. I'm with you

he's my number one until he drops.

Then Kerry or Clark. Edwards. Dean... Sharpton or Lieberman (but I hope not that far)

[morgan2]

28. kucinich is my only choice

[JohnKleeb]

29. me, tied with Kerry for 1 and 2

They share it.

[wheresthemind]

33. heh... John I never thought I'd see the day...

when another candidate would share a place in your heart with Dennis!

Kucinich 1 Kerry 2 here.

[Desertrose]

45. yeah, I know John...

I was surprised to see you made space in your heart for more than just Dennis...

He is still my #1 and will always be!

:hug:
DR

[greendog]

30. DK is my first choice...

....no second choice at this time.

[Droopy]

31. He's my number 1

Has been almost since the begining and will be until the end whatever that may be.

[mountebank]

32. Kucinich 1st choice till the end.

I will support any Dem candidate in the end, and when Lieberman drops out, I will actually think they are all pretty decent. Nevertheless, I will support Dennis Kucinich on the issues and with my vote until he drops out.

[Astarho]

34. Same here

Kucinich still #1

[KathCO]

35. DK is still my 1st choice

I will support him until the end.

[Loren645]

36. Kucinich is one of my top two

Guess who the other is! :)

[Paulie]

37. Kucinich #1, no #2

No one else has earned a slot based on the issues. I'm waiting for others to try.... :D

[LWolf]

38. Kucinich. All the way.

[GreenArrow]

39. Kucinich is my only choice

I will still likely vote for the others in the general election, but I really have no use for any of them other than that they are not Bush.

[Desertrose]

40. Kucinich is my #1 and will always be my only one....

until I have to choose otherwise...

...and *if* it comes to that it will be a poor poor second choice....


Go DENNIS!!!!

Peace
DR

[blm]

41. Kerry and Kucinich supporter here.

.

[Forkboy]

43. First choice for me

[no name no slogan]

44. DK all the way.........to the White House! (n/t)

:kick:

[corporatewhore]

46. First choice ...sig pic says it all

[diamondsoul]

47. Me! Kucinich IS #1!

I'm with him to the end, bitter or sweet. Here's to the awakening of the masses.:toast:

[sweetheart]

48. dennis kucinich is my president

If he suggests i consider another, well, then i'll take that decision when it comes.

[tinanator]

49. Dennis is the one

only cows, DU'ers and sheep would allow themselves to be herded by the decisions of a bunch of white folk in Iowa or elsewhere.

[LeftHander]

50. I was wavering but have returned to DK

After FINALLY seeing him speak on C_SPAN this weekend.

I saw Clark, Dean, Kerry, Edwards and Lieberman (wanted to hear SHarpton too)

After hearing each give a ten minute or so stump speech in NH I returned to DK.

I am really upset at how the Media completely ignores Kucinich and SHarpton.

[iowapeacechief]

53. Hooray!

There's plenty of time to settle for a second-best choice and unite behind a plenty-good nominee. I trust Dennis to know when to hang it up, and I'm with him until then.

[charlie]

51. Sticking with Dennis

and I'm really glad he's hanging in there.

[ulysses]

52. #2 here.

[HFishbine]

54. He was my second

until he backed a war supporter in Iowa. Really damaged his credibility and for what? Zero delegates.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

56. Correction: 39 delegates

and I believe you've been corrected on this point before.

[iowapeacechief]

57. No national convention delegates...

...but better chances for moving forward through the process and possibly winning national delegates later. The alternative was losing everything in precincts where he lacked 15 percent support. Anyone who still says Dennis compromised some principle JUST DOESN'T GET IT.

[HFishbine]

58. FACT CHECK: Kucincich got Zero delegates in Iowa (sourced)

39???

According to CNN, Kucinich picked up zero delgates in Iowa (a testement to the brilliance of compromising his anti-war position for political purposes.) I'd be happy to correct myself if I'm in error, but I'll need a source other than a DU post.

Kerry: 20
Edwards: 18
Dean: 7

All others: 0

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/scorecard/index.html

[iowapeacechief]

61. Wrong. CNN can project national delegates, but...

...the Iowa caucuses chose only county delegates, and county conventions will regroup behind whatever candidates are still in play on March 13.

CNN is wrong to announce "pledged" national delegates from Iowa.

[DemBones DemBones]

62. Hey, IOWApeacechief, PLEASE explain what was going on at

the caucus televised live on C-SPAN. The Dean chairperson for that caucus promised the Kucinich supporters a delegate to the county if they'd help Dean get another delegate (she was short two supporters to get a second delegate, as I recall.) Was that legitimate? How could she give a delegate away if she needed votes to get a delegate?

NOBODY seemed to know what was up with that at the caucus.

[iowapeacechief]

63. Legitimate and commonplace

I've heard and read about that televised caucus, but I never saw it.

That said, yes, the sort of deal-making you describe is not unusual at all. It's not only legal; it's expected and strategized and rehearsed.

In my caucus, a presidential preference group needed 10 for viability. I was in a Kucinich group of seven. Edwards had eight. Then one undecided went to Edwards, so they were only one short. We tried unsuccessfully to gain more members from anywhere else (Edwards needed only one!), but nobody else moved (after the last undecided went to Gephardt, making 11 for them), and time was running out. So at the last minute our two nonviable groups agreed that Kucinich would make Edwards viable in exchange for one of the two delegates we would be awarded. It was precisely the case envisioned in the limited "alliance" recommended by our candidate. Six of us opted for the deal, and one of ours went to Dean.

[iowapeacechief]

65. Further clarification

In answer to your "why" I guess I didn't make it clear. In your example, both delegates would be reported as Dean's, but one of them would in fact be a Kucinich person who would be free to further DK's candidacy and agenda at the March 13 county convention, as well as work on convention committees right away, e.g., platform. So it's a win/win deal.

If you understand how this works, you understand why we Iowa Kucinich supporters are so sure there are many more of us than revealed in the official caucus results. We know we really are a significant chunk of the second-place Edwards position, and we are probably represented among county delegates for all the others.

[goodhue]

55. First choice is DK!

And second choice is DK! :-)

But if forced to choose from big four Edwards because of "Two Americas", poverty and hope.

[IrateCitizen]

59. My number one without a doubt!

DK's candidacy is not just about electoral politics, it's about creating a movement. THAT is why I support him, and have donated more money to his campaign that to any other electoral cause in my life.

[DemBones DemBones]

60. Hey, Hey, All the Way With Dennis K.!!!

That's my morning cheer for you! :donut:

I've been supporting Dennis all along, first getting interested in him because of his "A Prayer for America" speech in February 2002. I'd never heard of him before so I looked at his Congressional website and liked what I read.

I think he can win here in the South if people hear his message and vote for their own survival (their "pocketbooks") He and Edwards truly represent the working class, coming from working class families, labor union families. Even with his dad being a union man, Dennis and his six siblings grew up in poverty, having to move all the time, sometimes living in the family car because no one would rent to their large family, Dennis and some of the other kids being put in an orphanage at one point because their mother was suffering postpartum depression after the birth of one of the younger children and couldn't care for all of them. Those stories will resonate with a lot of people in the South and the rest of the country. I'd guess that most people in the country grew up knowing some kids who had it rough like that, or were such kids themselves, or can be thankful they never encountered that sort of life.

Dennis did janitorial work to pay for books when he was in parochial grade school, started caddying regularly when he was 12 (IIRC), later worked as a hospital orderly, a surgical assistant, and a cameraman -- and still belongs to the cameramen's union. THAT'S an impressive resume to me! Oh, yes, he was a city councilman at 22 (23?) and Mayor of Cleveland at 31, but I think everybody who's ever had to support themselves with blue collar (or pink collar) work, and no trust fund to fall back on, will appreciate being able to vote for someone who's done the same.

[Poseidon]

64. DK

DK is my first choice, and Kerry is my 2nd.

[MadHound]

66. DK is my only choice

The rest are drek. If DK doesn't get the nod, I will be voting Green.