As progressives/dems we should all be "pro marriage!"

[rfranklin]

Reading a post in which someone said they are pro gay marriage, it occurred to me that we should just adopt "pro marriage" as our standard. Everyone who wants to should get married, period. What could be more pro-marriage than that?

[Inland]

1. But Rush is so pro-marriage, he's done it THREE TIMES!

I can't beat that! Unless I were to try polygamy.....

[rfranklin]

2. And if he married a man it might stick the fourth time...

He doesn't seem to be comfortable married to a female.

[opihimoimoi]

3. Not all peeps desire marriage, Pubs included. Why not Pro Better Living???

Better Villages, Cities, Parks, Communities, States, Nations, Goals, Systems, Farms, Efficiency, etc???

[I Have A Dream]

4. Very good point. This is something that the Right would do.

Damn, you're good! :)

[rwenos]

5. ARE there any RW good family men?

All the RW males I know are the biggest womanizing whorebait imaginable. They frequently speak admiringly about my 17-year marriage and child, but always say "Gee, I could never do THAT."

Just an observation.

[Inland]

12. They speak admiringly of your marriage and your child

Hitting on you, probably.

[niyad]

6. WHY? marriage is an outdated, patriarchal institution that epitomizes

second-class or non-existent status for the woman (father "gives away" his property, oops, daughter, to her new lord and master. remember the old common law adage that "husband and wife are one under the law, and that one is the husband) instead of being "pro-marriage", why don't we come up with new, egalitarian and respectful ways of dealing with each other?

[rwenos]

7. Well, We Kind of Did

In the 1970's, when the marriage laws (at least in California) were de-sexed. As with many common law doctrines (like the fellow servant rule and contributory negligence), the legislature changed the law.

Miss something in law school, my friend?

[niyad]

8. no, I didn't miss anything. you apparently did, though, since I pointed

out that it was an old common law adage. but, just for contemporary views, look at the southern baptist nonsense a few years ago about "wives shall be submissive to their husbands" and to drivel like "surrendered wife" and the still-flourishing cult of "fascinating womanhood"

[rwenos]

9. Isn't So. Baptist Convention Illegal in California?

Sorry for the tone.

[rfranklin]

10. That is up to the individuals involved...

When two women or two men marry is it a patiarchal arrangment? People want to be married and formalize their relationships. When you trash marriage you are alienating the vast majority of humans.
And you will never win many hearts and minds.

[Inland]

11. Actually, we came up with a new, egalitarian and respectful marriage.

Showing that old dogs CAN be taught new tricks, the institution of marriage changed dramatically.

The property rights of women were changed in the 1800s. Divorce is still moving toward a better place; not equal in practice for either sex but improving.

Anyone who doesn't live in an egalitarian and respectful marriage can't blame the law, or the institution. They certainly don't have to have the bride given away, or carried over the threshold, or any of that other stuff.

[rfranklin]

13. Hey, I want to be carried over the threshold!

My wife can't manage it however.

[Inland]

14. She can use a wheelbarrow. nt

[I Have A Dream]

18. Even worse...

man and wife.

That always gets me so pissed. He's not defined by the woman but the woman is defined by her relationship to him. :mad:

[ClassicDem]

15. I am against...

Government having any involvement with contracts between consenting adults. Government needs to get the hell out of the marriage business and focus on more important issues like getting our economy out of the hole that its in.

There is no reason that anyone should need a marriage license to get married, none of the founding fathers had one and it was only once slaves were freed that they were needed, I mean white men were scared shitless that their women would prefer a black man over them so they made sure the Government would step in and keep it from happening by requiring a license to get married.

[Larkspur]

16. I'm happily single and cheerfully childfree, so I won't promote marriage

I won't ban it either.

[Boo Boo]

17. Right! Marriage for everybody!!

What we are opposed to is Republicans molesting children. That has got to stop!