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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:48 PM
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Bush's Tuesday Speech will be "substantive"
Or at least as substantive as the incompetent GOP wonks get, which is to say, of very little substance. But, that said, it won't be the repetitive drivel that many here are predicting. It also won't be about Iran. Here are my predictions:

The speech will be divided into three parts, the second two of which will include a good deal of specific evidence and specific programs. These two deliberative sections (in the Aristotelian sense of deliberative rhetoric, or arguments about the future) will be preceded by an admission of the problems US forces are encountering, along with blame for the enemy. This will be a classical strategy...begin with what is hardly arguable: the situation is tough and the enemy is malicious and evil (for Americans, it is impossible to claim otherwise).

So, Part 1. The Problem (primarily emotional, will appeal to country and moral values; will set up the dichotomy between enemy and the US, with a closing identification of the US and Iraqi people against the insurgency which, in turn will be identified with al-Qaeda)

  • We're in a tough fight with a tough and persistent enemy
  • Our losses have been steep, and may get steeper; they may cause us to waver
  • Every American mourns for the brave troops who have died; but they died for a noble cause
  • A litany of outrages perptrated by the insurgents (expect to hear of at least two specific bombings and specific beheadings)
  • Set up our cause against this litany
  • Closes with the specific story of an Iraqi who has resisted or fought back against the insurgency, or some other human interest story focused on an "ordinary Iraqi citizen"


Part 2. The Political Solution (Here you will see a substantive program of action related to the formation of government) Expect

  • A reminder of the election and its place in history
  • An enumeration of social improvements, borne out with statistics: expect at least 4 cases (number of schools, infant mortality, etc.)
  • Transition: but there's still more work to do...
  • Five specific examples of what we're doing to speed the political process
  • A list of diplomatic initiatives aimed at enlisting the assistance of foreign powers (expect an "I spoke with X when the leaders of such and such met at so and so"); at least four success stories on this front
  • Timetable for Iraqi Constitution (and construction of this timetable as a new telos for the "things are gonna get easier" mantra we've entertained for two years)


Part 3. The Military Solution - Here it's more difficult to predict what Bush is going to say, since there is no military solution that is new. Expect

  • An enumeration of Iraqis trained, and a list of their successful operations
  • At least one human interest story involving an Iraqi unit
  • A list of recent US "successes," such as the farcical operations on the Syrian border


Conclusion: That said, it's all about the Iraqi people, blah blah blah. Here you'll see the repetive stuff about democracy and freedom, but it will take on the glow of the substantive policy that came before it. The key word is specificity and that will be the mantra of the pundits post-speech. "Bush was more specific than we've heard anyone on this, etc." The problem, as I believe they've analyzed it, is that the public is antsy because of the open-ended nature of the whole business, and that it seems to subsist at a dull drone, never changing, never transforming, just day after day after day of car bombs and troop deaths. It has no specificity to it, and there doesn't seem to be any specific intervention discussed at the policy level. So we'll hear tons of "specifics."

Second prediction: It will all be forgotten within three weeks, since the specifics will fall back into the constant drone of the violence. The speech will be widely praised by the pundits, and largely ineffectual even in the short-term.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:52 PM
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1. You're good ....
and I'll bet you're right. The whole thing is SO predictable.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 12:49 AM
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7. So predictable they might as well use one of these...
http://bushspeaks.com/speaks.asp?did=200&taf=2

Thank you very much. Please be seated. I'm glad to be here today to talk with you.

This great country will show the world that we fight for what we believe, as we seek justice. This great country will show the world the true compassion and decency of a great nation. Every decision I made, I stand by. And I'm proud of the decisions I've made.

I haven't changed my opinion about Saddam Hussein, however. He is — this is a person who gassed his own people, and possesses weapons of mass destruction. And so as I told the American people, we'll use all tools at our disposal to deal with him. People say — a lot of young people say, well, why America? Why would anybody want to come after us? Why would anybody want to fight a war with this nation? And the answer is because we love freedom. That's why. And they hate freedom. It is important that we stay the course, bring these people to justice, to show — and show others how to fight the new wars of the 21st century. I say to all nations of the world — you're either with us or against us.

The defense of the country is a priority. Homeland defense is a priority. Other parts of the budget have grown, but we expect them to be realistic about how they spend. After all, the budget plan I proposed says if Congress is realistic and reasonable and funds priorities, that we can balance the budget in the year 2005. Redefining the role of the United States from enablers to keep the peace to enablers to keep the peace from peacekeepers is going to be an assignment. We're going to smoke them out. And we're adjusting our thinking to the new type of enemy. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.

If you want to fight evil, like your neighbor as if you would like to be liked yourself. If you want to help, teach a child to read. You can become a soldier in compassion and fight the war in the Homeland by volunteering.

You know, in this town, sometimes people don't shoot straight with you. They kind of come in and tell you something and then they leave, and you're wondering what they said — or if they said something, whether they mean it. I can tell when they mean it. I'm absolutely confident -- well, I know one of the great strengths of the country is the heart and soul of the American people. And there are thousands of our fellow citizens who will answer a call to love a neighbor in need. I have asked all Americans to commit at least two years — 4,000 hours over a lifetime -- to the service of our neighbors and our nation. History has called us to action.

There ought to be limits to freedom. I want to talk about the challenges America faces. I worry about our security. I'm worried about our homeland security; I'm worried about our national security; and I'm worried about economic security. And that's what I want to talk to you about. This new capacity at the homeland — Department of Homeland Security is going to be also important, where we'll have people whose job it is to analyze everything we see, and assess everything we here.

As well, in order for us to have the security we all want, America must get rid of the hangover that we now have as a result of the binge, the economic binge we just went through. We were in a land of -- there was endless profit, there was no tomorrow when it came to, you know, the stock markets and corporate profits. And now we're suffering a hangover for that binge. We've got sound monetary policy. Interest rates are reasonable. If people want to borrow money, you don't have to pay a lot of interest. If the concern is more jobs, and people aren't lending money because there is no insurance against acts of terror, Congress needs to deal with it.

Our enemies fear a society which is pluralistic and open to worship an almighty God. We love the idea of people being able to worship freely in America. Our government must not fear the involvement of faith-based programs. As a matter of fact, we've got to welcome faith-based programs. We will leave no child behind. If you teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test. You see, I believe out of the evil done to America can come incredible good. If we're strong and steady and resolved, we can achieve peace. Out of the evil done to America will come an economic vitality that will be vibrant, because we're an entrepreneurial people, risk takers and dreamers and doers. And out of the evil done to America will come a better America, because in our prosperity and wealth, we've got to remember there are pockets of despair and hopelessness and addiction. Perhaps that example was best shown us all on Flight 93. I want you to think about that moment: People flying across the country; they realized the plane they were on was going to be used as a weapon; they told their loved ones they loved them; they said a prayer. They said, "Let's roll," and served something greater than themselves in life. I believe if we're strong, we can achieve peace. And that's what I want. We fight for peace.

May God bless you your families, and may God bless America.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:54 PM
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2. Don't forget little Susie, whose father sacrificed himself for us.
There will be a personal story or 2, the "awww" factor, the human interest story in part #1. We can't let our young people have died in vain...? 9/11? Sounds like a good summary. I can hardly wait.blech.
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LastLiberal in PalmSprings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 03:38 AM
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10. And not only did he die for Iraqi freedom
he volunteered for another tour and was killed again. This starts to sound more and more like a Jerry Lewis Telethon.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:39 AM
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18. sadly, LOL. There are soldiers who lost limbs who are returning to battle
It begins to feel like they're all going to be like the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
MKJ
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:58 PM
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3. Or, rendered to its most salient points...
"Blah, blah, blah, Iraq. Blah, blah, blah, Democracy. Blah, blah, blah, Terrorists. Blah, blah, blah, Resolve. Blah, blah, blah, Freedom.

Blah blah.

Blah blah.

"We can't leave until the mission is complete."

Ummm...didn't he already say it WAS?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 12:01 AM
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4. Haven't we heard all this garbage before?
Bush's popularity rating goes straight down after his speeches.

Have you noticed that the DOD have only released the name of the Naval female recently killed and kept quiet the names of the four Marine women killed? Also, utter silence on the 11 female Marines injured.

Barbara and her son share "We don't want to waste our beautiful minds on such things as death"
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 12:13 AM
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5. get ready to count the references to 911. n/t
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:11 AM
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21. I see a drinking game in my future.
Because I sure as hell can't watch him sober anymore.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:47 PM
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37. will someone watch it for me
he pisses me off so much I can't help but yell at the TV. If your drinking game is on the word "freedom", I am afraid you will need a trip to the hospital to have your stomach pumped, but listening to what he actually says may do that job for you...
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 12:27 AM
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6. Hehe
Everything is fine
What is a little lie,
Sure some soldiers will die,
War is never nice

Your faith is mine
My resolve will make it fine
So what is a little lie
If I get to eat my pie

See my little Lice
She feed you with Rice
Then you turn into little mice
Oh I love my Lice
She so good at lies

So what if some soldiers die
Roving roving for my pie
Its all in the mind
As long as its all mine
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:59 AM
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26. Which reminds me of one of the more profound statements
uttered by the Dim Son...

"Make the pie higher!"

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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 08:38 PM
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45. The Great E-nun-ci-a-tor
If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. OK, I'm quiet now.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 01:59 AM
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8. Same shineola, different speech...
This is GREAT! Really!

There's nothing new here. It's the same malarkey he's always spewed.

This will only enrage people further.

I predict that some poll will show his numbers in the 30's--within the next couple of weeks. Seriously.

Many people are waking up. They're realizing that they've been bamboozled. When Junior regurgitates the same garbage down America's gullet--it will backfire.

Anyone ever know a total bullshitter? At first, you give them the benefit of the doubt. Then, as they continue bs-ing--you start to get irritated. Then finally, when you've got them totally figured out--and they continue on with their same schtick--you just wanna scream, "Allrightallready...STFU!!!".

That's where America is at with Junior. Most have him totally figured out (see latest polls), and now he's about to give us more of his bullschtick.

MUuaauahahahahaha!! I love it. Free drinks for everybody!!
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 02:54 AM
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9. Substantive?? I thought *ush was giving it.
n/t
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 03:41 AM
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11. same old song and dance
"makin' progress" "I'm an optimist" "I'm optimistic..." "..stay the course.." "..resolute.."

meanwhile -- who cares what we think...
Bush and Co. still distorting facts about Iraq
By PHILIP GAILEY, Times Editor of Editorials
Published June 26, 2005

---snip---
President Bush, speaking Friday at a White House news conference with visiting Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jafari, made it clear he intends to stay the course, with or without public opinion on his side.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:09 AM
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12. Now taking bets on the number of times the phrase
"it's hard work" is uttered.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:03 AM
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13. Local newspaper says Bush using base as "backdrop."Protesters gearing up.
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/printer.php?Story=7076896

Published on: 2005-06-25

Bush to give policy address at Fort Bragg

By Matt Leclercq
Staff writer

President Bush will use Fort Bragg as a backdrop next week for what the White House describes as a major policy speech on the war in Iraq.

The president is expected to land Tuesday at Pope Air Force Base and deliver his remarks at 8 p.m. on the adjoining Army post. The White House has asked television networks to broadcast the speech to a national, prime-time audience, a spokeswoman said Friday.

<>Cumberland County Republicans said Friday that this presidential visit won't be a cross-town extravaganza like Bush's last stop on March 17, 2002. Party leaders and candidates for Congress shared the spotlight as more than 5,000 people heard Bush speak at the Crown Arena. The speech touched on increases in defense spending and the end of the Taliban's regime in Afghanistan.

<>Anti-war groups, including Fayetteville's Peace with Justice and Military Families Speak Out, are organizing demonstrations. Activists plan to hold a news conference Tuesday afternoon and a 5 p.m. vigil at Market Square in downtown Fayetteville. Lou Plummer said the demonstrators will call on Bush to bring troops home immediately and theme will be: "Bring the troops home now and support them when they get back."

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:15 AM
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14. Yep...same old crap w/a few words changed...
There will be at least one reference to, "they hate us because of our freedoms."

Unless he states that there is an exit strategy, (doubtful, because there never was one), he'll drop at least another 5 points in the polls.

Except for the core neo-cons, no one thinks this clod is worth a damn thing...worst president ever.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 08:03 AM
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15. I dunno my friend..
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 08:06 AM by sendero
... you say it won't be the "same repetitive drivel" and then you go and list a set of points that are the same repetitive drivel.

Make up your mind :)

And let me make my own prediction. Bush spent years spouting bullshit and people gave him the benefit of a doubt. That is over. Americans (ok, there will always be the 30% idiot contingent who will support Bush** no matter what) are catching on, rapidly, that his words are meaningless.

He is not going to be able to talk himself out of this mess, he has spent all of his political capital, foolishly.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:12 AM
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16. PR and propaganda catapulted like night soil at the gullible American.
It's the Bu$hco way.

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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:19 AM
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17. Doesn't "substantive" mean...
the bullshit will be extra-thick? :think:
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:40 AM
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19. Recommended, Kicked and bookmarked.
It's always helpful to know as much as possible prior to one of these "crafted" speeches. Thanks. MKJ

:kick:
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:30 AM
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20. If Rove were smart, rather than clever
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 10:32 AM by realpolitik
he would be avoiding the problem areas as much as possible.
More idiocy slathered on top of the current thick layer of crap will not remove the stench.

What Rove would be wanting to do is float new distractions, not let ** wander into the things that have his numbers tanked. So perhaps a 'medicare reform,' jobs creation act, discussion of oil prices, and the magick beans they are going to sew to grow us all enough oil to drive hummers. Bush would be well served to go after another drug problem, like maybe Crank.

There is no good news in Iraq, and the bad news is so bad that there is no poo they can fling at it that will stick. They will sound worse than BushI on taxes and a thousand points of light.

They have to change the debate, and I predict there is a good chance that that is what the flacksters mean by substantive.
But if they are crazy enough to happy talk Iraq, we will torpedo their delusional blather with little effort. By all means, let Ms. Boxer, Mr. Conyers Mr. Dean, and Mr. Kucinich go out and take a hammer to their kneecaps.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:23 AM
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22. I'm just curious if he'll get so hunched over that his head pops in to
his torso. He's getting close.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:40 AM
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24. Mental picture takes root:
Here is junior giving his speech on Tuesday:

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:26 AM
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23. Substantive BS...does that mean the press will wear hip-waders?
Or will the audience duck under plastic like they're at a Gallagher concert?
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:48 AM
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25. What line does Las Vegas offer on how far Bush's poll numbers will drop
after this speech? Anyone know?
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 12:02 PM
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27. It all depends on what the word "substantive" means....
For someone like President Bush, it means a speech where most of the sentences have three words in them, and the words are mostly two syllables or more.

TC

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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 12:10 PM
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28. "Substantive"...lol
:rofl:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 02:07 PM
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29. Maybe "substandardtive"
:)
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 02:15 PM
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31. Yes, in bushspeak!
Or, maybe substandretardive. :silly:
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 02:15 PM
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30. Cable "News" pundits will druel over it,
Tweety will druel over Bush's Aryan cod-piece, the Democrats will give a meak response to the speech, and we'll still be in the same mess on Wednesday morning.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 02:59 PM
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32. Can he even say "substantive"?
:shrug:
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 03:13 PM
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33. I think I'm staying away from any drinkin' games on this baby
I'll be plastered and on the floor halfway through, knowing that he's gonna say , freedom, freedom-haters, democracy, terra, stay the course, etc. over and over and over.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 03:42 PM
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34. Can't we get somebody to screw with the teleprompter?
So as the only words on it would be: Downing Street Minutes; Jeff Gannon; overwhelming American casualties; leave social security along; oil prices climb to record highs; global warming at high level alert; American's behind the eight ball in stem cell research; numbers of terrorists grow since Iraq war; Americans losing jobs daily...

He probably wouldn't even notice and would just read the words like uncle karl told him to.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 03:43 PM
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35. It's means he's gonna talk with his mouth full again.
You'd think the pretzel incident woulda learned him.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:02 PM
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36. Our secret military solution
We have yet to send our legions of mighty boy scouts yet.
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:50 PM
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38. No one will be watching
Most people see this for what it is -- AWOL's attempt to prop up his sagging poll numbers.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:12 PM
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49. It's Summer...95% of the people don't watch television in the summer!
Wednesday's news from Iraq will make or break his talk.
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:00 PM
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39. my prediction
is that it will include something that frames opponents of the war as failing to support the troops. They need to hammer that home, because people are failing to get their message on it. With support for the war flagging, military recruitment down, they need to push harder to portray the war as patriotic and being against it as worse than unpatriotic.

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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:51 PM
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40. Drink a cold one every time Chimp says terrorist or insurgent
And end up falling down, gut puking drunk....
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Scorpio Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:54 PM
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41. Osama check
Lets see if he has the guts to mention Osama.....hell, who am I kidding, he wont even admit there were no WMDs!
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:59 PM
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42. Going to have him drugged up on downers like the Iraqi invasion speech??
Thats the only way they can get that fool to make a speech without chuckling and smirking his way through it. No matter how many have been killed or lost a limb or TWO,Bush could laugh about it.

My guess is a drugged up Bush...
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:17 PM
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43. nah - **'s gonna do his sick 'under the table' WMD jokes
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 06:18 PM by Amonester
again, and all the carefully screened boys 'n girls there will start screaming and laughing their arses out loud, so his numbers will get back to the 90% he once 'enjoyed' so much... Ha! His Good Ol' Days!

Same mess in, Wednesday morning.

(part of what HE IS GUILTY of):
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6376212

:hide:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 08:39 PM
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46. They're talking 'bout 12 YEARS worth of occupation now. They B Nuts.
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Nigel_Tufnel Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:04 PM
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44. here is something similar i copied from salon many years ago
i just found it while cleaning up my hard drive. i didn't keep the name of the person who wrote it, alas, but it's brilliant! i think it dates from the beginning of afghanistan, but as you can see, not much has changed....

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Speech tonight will be as follows:

Platitude, religious reference, platitude, introduction of hero, (bipartisan applause), patriotic folderol (more applause), vague dissembling and facts, platitude, obscure usage of the english language, religious reference, (bipartisan applause), offer of money to some industry, more dissembling, tax cut for rich people, patriotic folderol,(bipartisan applause), god reference, vague jingoistic appeal,(bipartisan applause), compassion reference, warning about sacrifices to everybody in America except for the rich, patriotic exhortation, Insertion of Bold Patriotic Title for Operation (thunderous bipartisan applause), religious reference, line that everyone is supposed to quote tomorrow, supplication to god, patriotic twaddle, (weary bipartisan applause), God Bless America, (relieved bipartisan applause).

All of the previous will be spoken in the odd rhythym of sentences being broken up in mid-stream due to a combination of dyslexia/slow teleprompter.

Afterwards all of the talking heads will praise him for not screwing up, in tones that indicate how suprised they are. Other comments will include "most important speech of his life", "how much he has grown in office", "bi-partisan support", "exhibiting leadership... strength...resolve".

Peggy Noonan will work herself into such an effusive lather that she'll wet herself. Doris Kearns Godwin will make FDR comparisons. Chris Matthews will spit on people. Brit Hume will forget he's supposed to pretend he's a journalist and pull out the pom poms. Frank Luntz will poll a bunch of average "Muricans" who will all agree that we should go to war, as long as it's not them. Mike Barnicle will say something that we will later find out somebody else said previously. Howard Fineman will have the first on-air orgasm by a journalist in US history. Bob Novak will start making excuses for any screw-ups. Karen Hughes will give the press copies of the speech with "authentic" Bush notes indicating how much control he had over the writing of it, so much in fact, that he actually wrote it himself.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:55 PM
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47. Good to Brilliant.. Great jobs. But, NO 9/11 Iraq misdirection?
The original post shows so much detail, riveting.
This Salon one is amazing.

Still a good chance he will juxtaposition Iraq and 9/11 in the same or adjacent sentences. Anthrax won't return.

I suggest it will be the same maddeningly self-agrandizing misdirecting redundancy.

At least these predictions offer some intellectual stimulation, since Bush won't.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:57 PM
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48. "Substantive" = Full of even more lies than usual
Maybe this will be his "Iran must be dealt with" speech.

Considering the Chimp's poll numbers are in the tank, look for desperate measures.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 12:20 AM
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50. Sure AS IF Chimpyshit can actually get a substantive sentence out of his
mouth (or to be more precise, read it off the Teleprompter)
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 01:02 AM
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51. Yes, but can he pronounce the word or use it in a sentence?
He's got an MBA, but can he spell it?

He is truly a revolting creature; he brings out the worst in all of us. I hope he gets really specific about predictions of the immediate future, so we can show ONCE AGAIN that they're wrong about virtually everything; this is one of the greatest weapons we have to shoot down their "we're the grownups" demand for secrecy.
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