If it came down to Hillary and Barbara Boxer who would you endorse?

[Imagevision]

Hillary is playing the politics game to the "T" while Boxer lets her opinions/feelings be well known.
WHO? Would you back??

[Goldmund]

1. Whom do you think?

:rofl:

[ewagner]

2. Boxer

she has less baggage as far as I'm concerned.....

[Montauk6]

3. (shouldn't this be a poll?... anyway...)

My vote goes to Sluggin' Barb.

[TN Young Dem]

26. Well, I'll go with the flow...

BOXER!!!!!

[snowbear]

36. Yeah, but... Doing it this way (instead of a poll)...

Makes the responses "actual and honest" because no anonymous freeps can slip in a vote or two (or 10) to throw it off.

Remember the "up or down vote" someone put regarding Bush on here the other day? Only one DU'er fessed up to being one of the :think: ... what was it.. 5 or 6 who gave the dud an "up" vote. :wtf:

At least this way, we see an actual un-freeped show of hands! :)

Oh.. and between the two choices, I'd also select Boxer! ;)

[Montauk6]

66. Ah yes, good point, Larissa

I forgot about the ballot-stuffing angle.

[Dr.Phool]

4. Go Boxer!!

[Lerkfish]

5. Boxer, without question.

she's fighting the good fight, against overwhelming odds, without being coopted by the enemy or trying to "move to center" to please everyone.
She takes her responsibility to serve the country very seriously.

in a heartbeat, Boxer.

[Moochy]

6. A Man , but Boxer over Hillary

A Man. I hate to say it, but the whole "lets try to elect the first woman president" approach scares the hell out of me.

I'm all for electing a woman, but do we really have to try in 2008? Its a recipe for disaster, imo. Not because I'm sexist or old-fashioned, but because I'm cynical about the american electorate. I don't want to underestimate the woman hating right wing's organizing ability against Hillary, Boxer or anyone who can't be sold to racist sexist whites stuck in the wrong frame. You know, the republicans who voted for Bill Clinton?

You think they'll vote for Hillary given the lies they have successfully pushed against her?

The right needs to be able to be given a candidate they can vote for without feeling like they were wrong to hold their sexist views.
They need to feel comfortable with their protest candidate, and I guarantee that there will be less defectors from the republican party should we nominate a woman candidate for president.

In 2008, we need to be able to offer a candidate to the "Whats the matter with Kansas" republicans. Any woman will be a hard sell to people whose votes we need, and whose best interest would be served by a Democratic president.

on edit: Boxer if all the eligible male candidates die of bird flu.

[elshiva]

48. I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but I hope at

least Hilary runs in the primaries, if not Boxer. Just to say at least we are trying to have it be more equal.

I'd go with Boxer, but I love Hillary, too...

[rabid_nerd]

7. With no other choice, Boxer

n/t

[RethugAssKicker]

8. Boxer

Clinton, like her husband before here is just too moderate for me!

[CTD]

9. Boxer

While I admire her on her merits, Hillary is completely unelectable in a general election.

The Dems really need to come to terms with the fact that Hillary is just too polarizing to possibly win a general election for president. No one is neutral about her. And outside a segment of the Democratic party, she is viewed negatively by a pretty overwhelming majority of Americans.

I agree with the almost everything she's said/positions she holds. But I still view her negatively.

IMO, if she got the nomination, she'd lose by a wider margin than Mondale did back in '84.

I think the country is ready for a woman president. But it's not ready for Hillary.

[genius]

10. Let's see. A person or a rubber stamp for Bush's policies.

Boxer's had some bad votes but Hillary's sides with Bush most of the time.

[samdogmom]

11. Boxer!

Someone who says what she means and means what she says!

[Totally Committed]

12. Not even close....

B O X E R ! ! !

TC

[NV Whino]

13. BOXER!

She actually get's things done.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

14. I'd pray for a conservative third party candidate is what I'd do.

Because neither of them are going to win without one.

[Moochy]

18. Amen

Amen to that, fellow realist :)

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

21. Realism doesn't always play too well around here.

Boxer pretty much only appeals to us, and I have no faith in Hillary's ability to win over the millions of people who rabidly hate her already (oh, and unlike Bush, Hillary doesn't balance out her polarizing effect with one that sparks unity amongst us liberals). Add in, as you stated, the fact that the American people have proven themselves bigoted in the many anti-gay marriage amendments in 2004 and would not likely vote for ANY woman at this point and I think you have a recipe for disaster in nominating either of them.

[Imagevision]

25. Like it would take a lot to replace dumbo Bush? gedouddahere!

[Mel]

15. Boxer

without a doubt.

[montanacowboy]

16. Boxer

in a New York Minute (haha sorry Hillary)

[MsTryska]

17. hmm...who's voted in my best interests the most? nt

nt

[Patty Diana]

19. Boxer, No Doubt About It

[soleft]

20. Boxer

[iwantmycountryback]

22. Boxer is the fantasy choice

There is no chance in hell she'd ever win a nationwide election. Fughetaboutit.

[Piedras]

24. Boxer, with enthusiasm

Boxer. Proudly. With enthusiasm. Though more likely for VP.

[TriMetFan]

23. I agree with Vash the Stampede..

I will vote for Boxer any day.

[Zhade]

27. Boxer, by far a more principled and worthy candidate.

She's going in the right direction, though she does stumble on occasion.

[staticstopper]

28. Boxer

:kick:

[staticstopper]

29. Hill just sends the right into

fits of rage. I don't know why, I like her and she is a great Senator but for gods sake may she not glavanise the finally cracking r-w.

[Tiggeroshii]

35. She does certainly make them mad.

I don't think she's the one just for the reason she's a Clinton. Nobody will get the right acting faster than anybody who's last name is Clinton, nonetheless anybody with the first name of Hillary. It's really just her...

[lojasmo]

30. Boxer, without question.

I won't vote for Hillary in the generals either.

[Radical Activist]

31. Conviction politics works.

Boxer, no doubt.

[AntiCoup2K4]

32. Boxer, without a moment's hesitation.

And then pray like Hell that the curse of senators not being able to win Presidential elections was finally ended.

[Justpat]

33. Boxer.

[elizm]

34. Boxer

...It's the media and the Republicans that want Hillary.

[Tiggeroshii]

37. It looks unanimous: Clinton!

Jusssssssst kidding!

BOXER!

:P

[CityDem]

38. Boxer

She is more principled and carries less baggage. She would easily carry the state of California. Hillary is unpricipled and is all about politics.

[Czolgosz]

39. Boxer

[Proud_Lefty]

40. Of course - Boxer

Doesn't anyone else find it suspicious that the media has already declared Hillary as a front runner? She's okay, but not that popular.

[getmeouttahere]

41. Boxer....with relish!

[GreenPartyVoter]

42. Boxer

[Vadem]

43. Boxer, because Hillary is sounding like a Republican, lately...n/t

[derby378]

44. Boxer - definitely Boxer

But if she tries to reauthorize the AWB, it ain't gonna be pretty.

Amendment II Democrats

[bemildred]

45. Boxer. nt

[GRLMGC]

46. Well, neither would win

but I love Barbara Boxer (She is my good senator, after all) and am developing a little of disdain for Senator Clinton.

[catabryna]

47. Boxer

That was easy!

[Crunchy Frog]

49. Boxer, without a question. n/t

[Hippo_Tron]

50. Whichever one shows me that they could beat the GOP

Just because Hillary is moving to the middle, doesn't mean that she would be able to take on the Republican attack machine. Barbara Boxer isn't any farther left than Michael Dukakis and America liked Dukakis when the debate was still about ideas. But then the debate became about stupid shit like Willie Horton and Dukakis got creamed. We need somebody who can take whatever the GOP will throw at them.

[Kipepeo]

51. Boxer n/t

[kath]

52. Boxer - no question about it!

[zann725]

53. Now give us a tough one! Boxer's soooo far ahead of the 'game'...

yet playing 'it' at the same time!

In short, Babs shoots from the hip, and Hillary is joined to the hip of the DLC...not 'we the People'...without the slightest understanding of the principles and concept of "Democrat."

[zann725]

54. Looks like the "Boxer's" have it...hands down.

Which IS a "heads up" for BB.

[Clarkie1]

55. Boxer.

That's a no-brainer (very hypothetical, of course).

[Corey_Baker08]

56. Boxer n/t

[BlakeB]

57. Boxer

I like Hillary and everything, but I just don't think she could win the race for President. Hopefully Wesley Clark gets the nomination, but there is definately a whole list of people I'd like to see before Clinton. That list goes something like:

Clark
Feingold
Edwards
Kerry
Obama
Biden
Boxer
Clinton

[ngGale]

58. Boxer...

no offense, Hillary!

[NightOwwl]

59. Hmmm...a choice between a DLC'er and a Democrat.

Well, I'm a Democrat, so I think you can go from there.

[madeline_con]

60. Boxer

[Pinko]

61. See my sig

[Barad Simith]

62. Boxer. Didn't have to think very hard about that one.

I wouldn't oppose Hillary, but I think she's a Republican wet dream because they know she has little chance of winning.

[WillyT]

63. Boxer !!!

[Skidmore]

64. Boxer...

hands down. Without hesitation.

[magellan]

65. Boxer, without hesitation (nt)

[rhett o rick]

67. Boxer. Didn't Hillary vote for the IWAR? nt