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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:01 PM
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Do Bush & Co. think this is still the Cold War?
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 04:02 PM by elperromagico
Have they simply replaced one -ism with another?

A lot of the theories and practices that are floating around these days seem to be straight out of the Cold War playbook.

If one country falls to Communism terrorism, others will follow.

Our troops will remain in Vietnam Iraq until the South Vietnamese Iraqis are able to fight the North Vietnamese insurgency on their own. Then we will begin to withdraw.

You'll even occasionally hear talk about the use of nuclear force against countries said to harbor terrorists, as though Mutually Assured Destruction was still a safeguard.

Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, et cetera are always saying that the war on terror is a "new kind of war."

Why, then, are they using the same approaches... approaches which, I hasten to add, really didn't work in the first place?
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:07 PM
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1. Yeah! They just don't get it. We won the Cold War a long time ago!
They just want to relive the old gloriuos days when we were all united in fighting communism. Well guess what, George! We're not united!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:09 PM
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2. That's exactly what it is....
Another grossly exaggerated war, designed to keep defense contractors in business, and the people in fear.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:10 PM
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3. right. cold war, world war, terror war...
don't matter as long as it's war
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:11 PM
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4. There's no money in peace.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:15 PM
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5. They realized that allowing the cold war to end was a Big Mistake
So now we have the permanent war to justify all of their bullshit. War without end.
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:16 PM
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6. Watch "The Power Of Nightmares"
It explains the whole thing rather well.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3755686.stm
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:17 PM
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7. the key -ism is Manichaeanism

They make up analogies and work via analogies, but the analogies are are always changing. Their Feindbild never does.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:21 PM
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8. Hot wars created to replace the cold war, but with a new bogeyman?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 04:56 PM
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9. Terrorism is the current bogeyman.
What's more, terrorism is a far more vital bogeyman because it cannot be pinned down to a certain country on a map; terrorism can theoretically be found anywhere and can be far more broadly defined (as it was in Iraq prior to the Iraq war).
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:48 PM
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10. Cold war WAS won--through containment and 70 years of time.
That's too boring for Bush. He only imitates the cold war in it's WORST aspects, that is, when it stopped being cold and turned hot and dangerous.

Just as he hated Yalta, and supporting stability, he likes the Vietnam parts. Go figure.
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