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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:03 PM
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MSNBC: Bush's horrific, counterproductive, and possibly illegal war
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 05:31 PM by Bush_Eats_Beef
George Bush vs. Just About Everybody in the World, continued (or, “Things I learned reading the Pew Global Attitudes Project Survey of among nearly 17,000 people in the United States and 15 other countries this weekend)

June 27, 2005 | 12:50 PM ET | by Eric Alterman

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3449870/

Even the Commies are more admired. “Japan, France and Germany are all more highly regarded than the United States among the countries of Europe; even the British and Canadians have a more favorable view of these three nations than they do of America. Strikingly, China now has a better image than the U.S. in most of the European nations surveyed.”

If the idea of this war was to get Muslims to hate our guts even more, it’s working. “With the exception of Christian opinion in Lebanon, views of the U.S. in other predominantly Muslim nations are more negative and have changed little. In Turkey, hostility toward the U.S. and the American people has intensified. Nearly half of Turks (46%) say they have a very unfavorable view of Americans, up from just 32% a year ago… The war in Iraq continues to draw broad international opposition, and there is scant optimism that the elections in that country this past January will foster stability.
3) Remember those Iraqi elections that proved how great this war was? (And what a lilly-livered liberal/defeatist/I’m/elitist/Why-do-I-hate-American-kind-of-guy for responding with a wait-and-see attitude.) “Even the American public now has diminished expectations that the January elections held in Iraq will lead to a more stable situation there. The United States and India are the only countries surveyed in which pluralities believe Saddam Hussein's removal from power has made the world a safer place."

Oh and did I mention that Americans, by a 49 to 44 percent margin, now say that George W. Bush, rather than Saddam Hussein was responsible for the war in Iraq? Why does America hate America, here.
The executive summary of the Pew survey is here.

The lesson here, of course, is that the mainstream media is well behind not only the rest of the world but also the US public in their relatively rosy assessments of the respective catastrophes that are the Bush administration and its horrific, counterproductive, and possibly illegal war.

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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:07 PM
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1. That picture is a revolting one.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:28 PM
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5. Revolting Doesn't Cover It!
My thesaurus doesn't even have a word to describe the effect which that photo has on me!

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050601/the_key_to_impeachment.php
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:30 PM
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7. Dems should use that picture for 2008 against
McCain. That was the final straw for me regarding McCain.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:09 PM
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2. And that the mainstream media isn't fooling anybody: even they
are being forced to admit it, witness this article for example. Thanks for posting.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:12 PM
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3. the Frank Rich piece is surgical: clean, precise...deadly
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:18 PM
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4. great read
thanks for posting it.
Gross photo. I hope McCain disinfected his soul afterwards.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:29 PM
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6. Great article! But the photo makes it tough to vote it up.. LOL..
O'well.. thanks for posting it!

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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:32 PM
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8. OK, OK, OK, OK...I changed the photo. No more McCain.
:evilgrin:

:toast:
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:40 PM
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9. There is only one reason I would like to see Jeb Bush run...
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 05:44 PM by NightOwwl
To watch the BushRove smear machine drag McCain through the mud again. If he thought sucking up to Bush during the campaign would protect him from further attacks, he's in for quite a shock.

eta: The photo I was commenting on has been removed from the original post, so here's another for your viewing pleasure:



:evilgrin:





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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 05:46 PM
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10. And the startling thing, at least for me
Is the response to the question of who's responsible for starting the war in Iraq. I haven't seen a whole lot of spin out there, one way or the other, on this issue. Apparently the American people have decided all on their own that Bush is more responsible than Saddam for the current mess in Iraq.

Watch for this little tidbit to be either ignored or worked over by the mighty Republican Wurlitzer in a bid to get the numbers more to their liking.
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