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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:25 PM
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The most dangerous Republican alive
In your opinion, who is the most dangerous Republican alive, right now? There are plenty of them, I know, to choose from. But some are more devious than others, and others are perhaps far more dangerous than we can even imagine.

My choice for most dangerous Republican alive is Grover Norquist. While he might not be in the administration, he is definitely an architect of the entire conservative platform, and wields more power than many even in the administration.

Your choice?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:26 PM
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1. Sun Myung-Moon
Makes Norquist look like a piker.

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Gay Green Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:29 PM
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4. I agree.
Not only is he weaseling his way into Neoconster circles, but Dominionist / Fristian Right circles and even RINO and DINO circles as well.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:34 PM
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9. He doesn't even have to weasel his way into those circles
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 06:35 PM by htuttle
He BUILT most of those circles.

It's been Moon's money and organization behind the rise of the so-called 'Christian Right' since the late 70's when they started voting as a bloc.



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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:22 PM
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24. Hands down - not even close.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:28 PM
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2. That's just an easy one..
Dick Cheney. He's a danger to the entire world and all conseravtives, the man is completely demented, twisted, insane and uses Rove to make the chimp stick to the objective.

:wow: :think: :crazy:
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reBel_gyrl Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:38 PM
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11. I agree
and second the nomination for Cheney as most dangerous.. Without Cheney, our fake President would fall on his republican face (worse than now) and we'd ALL see this Admin. for what it really is.. money-grubbing, power-hungry, selfish, tyranical, world-policing, crusade-starting, America-dividing, make-the-world-our-peasents-and-put-those-who-will-listen-to-us-in-charge, poor hating, lying weasels. Throw Blair a nomination as well, if for nothing other than being Bush's finger puppet.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:28 PM
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3. Rove...
cut off the head, the body dies.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:29 PM
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5. I tend to agree with you...
he could be considered half of Bush's Brain, along with Karl Rove of course...and he's the one that made the "shrinking government until we can drown it in the bathtub" comment...of course that really means shrinking the social safety net until you can drown in in the bathtub.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:30 PM
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6. Cheney
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:33 PM
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7. The over 4 decades long alliance between the Bush Family and RevMoon
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 06:36 PM by blm
has cost this nation most dearly. The propaganda pushes in Moon owned media that alter history and promote war and criminal coverups, to Moon's control of half this nation's fishing industry, to Moon's ownership of all the land above the world's largest aquifer, to the funding of religious fundamentalism in all religions - Baptist, Catholic, Muslim, etc...for over 30 years......none of it could have happened without their alliance.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:34 PM
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8. Scalia as chief justice on the SCOTUS
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:37 PM
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10. Jim Baker has his hands deep in everything methinks.
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evilkumquat Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:44 PM
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12. Bush...
...but only because he may/will have the opportunity to name the next Chief Justice.

Granted, to paraphrase Bobcat Goldthwait, blaming Bush is like yelling at Ronald McDonald when you get a bad cheeseburger- neither one runs the company. Unfortunately, the final decision STILL rests with Bush; it is a foregone conclusion he will go along with Rove, Cheney and the rest of the Cabal, but in the end, the final call is his.

Ergo, he is the most dangerous.

Sure, be afraid of the mad scientist who creates the fifty-foot robot marauding through town, but it is the robot itself with foot-long, puppy-stomping steel spikes on the bottom of its feet.

And even when the mad scientist gets blown up in his lab, anyone else can still pick up the remote that is just lying there.

Evil Kumquat
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:46 PM
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13. Rupert Murdoch...
His media empire has been the downfall of the Democratic party. When the news is controlled, our voice ceases to exist.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:47 PM
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14. Tom DeLay
He must be indicted before he redistricts again.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:48 PM
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15. Rush, hannity, Oreally, Mike Savage, Pat Robinsin, Foulwell, etc
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:50 PM
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16. Paul Weyrich...
... he's got tentacles stretching out to every one of the people mentioned here--and many others few people know of. He's Mr. Fix-it for the entire right wing....
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:57 PM
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17. Forgot all about that DUDE. He is evil as they come.....
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:17 PM
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21. Excuse my ignorance...
but who is he? I'm sure he's a vile creature that I can learn to hate, but I don't know that name. Is he one of the original neocons?
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:21 PM
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23. Google is your friend...
... you'll discover he has connections to everyone in the right wing. Each Wednesday morning, he holds a meeting with a select group of right-wingers, including representatives from Congress and the White House where they plot strategy for the coming week--and they are his meetings--he decides who's invited.

Let's put it this way, people like Irving and William Kristol and Karl Rove call him, "sir."

Cheers.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:31 PM
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26. Ohhhh, he's got Scaife ties....
that has real meaning in Pa. Fortunately, we have the Heinz money to counter the Scaife-Mellon clan.

Okay, after reading up on the Google articles, you're right...he's #1.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 08:04 PM
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31. And his boudreau...
Howard Ahmenson. They, with Scaife, bankroll a lot of perfidy, like the schism in The Anglican Church.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:03 PM
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34. I've never thought of...
... Howard F. Ahmanson, Jr., as one of the great movers and shakers--he's a money man--and he's thoroughly nuts (part of the reason why he appears so infrequently in person in the general public--he just can't contain himself, and ordinary people walking away muttering about the "wacko religious right").

But, his money is powerful, and it did aid that schism in the Anglican Church, as you say. He's also the money behind (and a director of) The Discovery Institute in Seattle, which has been pushing ID, and was a former director of the CNP. But Weyrich effectively controls the CNP, and much of people in its constellation. Weyrich finds the people to spend Ahmanson's money. :)
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:09 PM
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42. "Mr. Fix-it for the entire right wing...."
The "Go To Guy".

Thanks. I'll check that out...
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:01 PM
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18. osama bin missin
when they roll out the dried up mummy from ancient egypt they claim has been dna'd as mr bin missin the mediawhores are gonna orgasm, literally orgasm all over the place! and the herd will chew its cud with newfound contentment....
:(
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:05 PM
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19. D. James Kennedy
Pastor of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church and heard all over the country on various radio programs as well as weekly on the "Coral Ridge Hour" on TV.

He is a Dominionist, and he has the ear of many in power. He is CONVINCED this country was made for xtians like him and he sees it as his duty to "Reclaim America for Christ"

see one of his websites @
www.reclaimamerica.org

Seriously scary sumbitch
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Patty Diana Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:14 PM
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20. John Bolton
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:19 PM
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22. Alan Greenspan
He is the one who has enabled the coming destruction of the global economy. All who worship at his altar, including many Democrats, will bear the enmity of the billions who will wallow in misery and squalor when the day of reckoning finally arrives....

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:36 PM
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35. He is one ugly dude! As evil as he is ugly.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:29 PM
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25. Bush. He has nukes. QED. nt
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:36 PM
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27. Dobson
n/t
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:40 PM
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28. Rove Cheney and DeLay nt
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:45 PM
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29. I Agree With Rove & Cheney
but would put Negraponte before Delay. I think it's just a matter of time now before the bugman is gone, his deeds are catching up with him.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 07:55 PM
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30. Osama bin Laden
He's got the credentials.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 08:11 PM
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32. Dubya himself...
because he is mentally unstable for whatever reason,
because he is easily manipulated by the likes of Rove and Cheney,
because he has deluded millions of Americans into thinking he is a
good man, sent by God Him/Herself to reshape the world.

And finally, because he is the president, he has the power.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 08:28 PM
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33. The next one that runs for president.
n/t
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:38 PM
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36. RICK SANTORUM
NO TEXT
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RUMPLEMINTZ Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:42 PM
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37. Ken Melman
He's under the radar courting the African American and Hispanic votes. If he gets just a couple of percent of them to vote rethug, well, we know what will happen.
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musical_soul Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:42 PM
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38. Cheney.
I think he controls Bush.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:51 PM
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39. Radical Cleric "Dr." James Dobson
This fundamentalist extremist and his massive fanital following composes a large portion of The Electoral Shock Troops of the Rabid Religious Reich.

His has great influence - lately he appears to be eclipsing other prominent Radical Clerics such as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.

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Fundamentalist Radical Clerics such as Falwell, Dobson, and Robertson are not merely medieval throwbacks or misguided religious hacks. They are part of a well organized subversionary movement known as "Dominionism".

Dominionism constitutes a serious threat to American Democracy. These Radical Clerics have developed and are executing a detailed plan to gradually replace the free, secular democratic society of the United States with a Theocracy.

It is critical that people become aware of the extreme agenda these people have for the United States and ultimately for the world. The results of the 2004 Presidential Election were not a fluke or something that was drummed up over a period of months. It has been in planning for over 20 years, and what we are seeing take place now is, in the words of Katherine Yurica, "the swift advance of a planned coup".

The articles below are critical for understanding the Dominionist movement; for realizing how real and how detailed their plans are; and to become aware of how far they have come toward achieving their goals.

The Swift Advance of a Planned Coup: Conquering by Stealth and Deception - How the Dominionists Are Succeeding in Their Quest for National Control and World Power
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheSwiftAdvanceOfaPlannedCoup.htm

The Despoiling of America: How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

Video on the Christian Reconstructionist Dominionist Theocratic Agenda
http://www.theocracywatch.org/av/video_dominion.ram

The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party
a public information project from TheocracyWatch.org

http://www.theocracywatch.org

The Religious Right - An Anti-American Terrorist Movement
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8816.htm

***

Antidote to Fundamentalist Nut-Cases is a Revival of the Freethought Movement

I think what we need is a Freethought movement similar to what the US had around the turn of the 20th century. Robert Ingersoll was touring the country, lecturing on secularism and exposing the claims of revealed religion to be false. Unless something breaks the stranglehold of religious fundamentalism in the US - and in the world - I think we are going to continue the slide into Theocracy and destruction.

The Freethought Zone
Science and Reason Over Religion and Superstition

http://freethought.freeservers.com

Freedom from Religion Foundation
http://www.ffrf.org

Secular Humanism
http://www.secularhumanism.org

Secular Web
http://www.infidels.org/index.shtml

Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason - Online
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/thomas_paine/age_of_reason/index.shtml

Complete Works of Robert Ingersoll - Online
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/index.shtml
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ChipperbackDemocrat Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:16 PM
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40. Most Dangerous Republican?
Grover Norquist.

He's their Erwin Rommel. The architect of the most anti-American economic policy in over 100 years.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:02 PM
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41. Rommel would have been a brilliant utter failure without troops
Granted, Grover Norquist is a brilliant evil architect of much of the Reactionary platform of the Republican party...But without tens of millions of Evangelical Christian voters, his brilliant plans would languish in obscurity.

Dobson has brainwashed millions into Reactionary ideas. He rallies voters and they think they are doing "God's work".

I would take 20 Norquests - without the support of the Religionists - over one Dobson and all brainwashed Christians.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:25 PM
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43. No doubt its Norquist...
It is his plan to destroy Social Security, Medicare, and all social safety net programs that has been put in motion. Norquist is the guy that said they should cut the revenue flow with tax cuts and let the programs wither on the vine.
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