Telling WINGNUTS to FU*K Off!!! So. California Latinos STRIKE BACK

[autorank]

OK, so here’s the deal. The Latino/Latina community in LA put up an art work, “Danza Indigenas” near a major LA Metro Station. It had the words “It was better off before they came.” This was meant to depict what Mexican immigrants hear as racist slurs after they arrive the US. Well, a group called “Save Our State”, Wingnut and anti immigrant, is so stupid they thought the phrase “before they came” referred to “white people” and was therefore racist.

The Save our State people (Minutemen clones) announced a demonstration at the monument. 60 showed up. The Latino/Latina community heard about this and guess how many showed up to counter the Wingnuts, 600 peaceful demonstrators who were fed up with bullshit.

This is what we need to do everywhere. Californians counter Arnine S. in massive demonstrations. The public service unions have a “flying squad” that dispatches people where ever Arnie S. supporters collect signatures for his stupid special election.

This is inspirational and exciting. California is leading the way in the Velvet Revolution!!!

Great Photographs of the Event
http://readraza.com/bp2/index.htm



Immigration Protest in Baldwin Park Is Peaceful
LA Times 6/26/05

Sixty people from a Ventura County group (anti immigration Wingnuts) opposed to words on artwork at a Metrolink station are met by 600 counter-protesters.

By Wendy Thermos, Times Staff Writer
A face-off Saturday in Baldwin Park over illegal immigration, sparked by a piece of public art, was peaceful despite authorities' fears of violence.

Next to City Hall, where about 60 protesters opposed to illegal immigration waved signs and American flags, about 600 counter-protesters sang, danced, chanted and beat drums to promote tolerance.

"It's not a confrontational us-versus-them thing. It's to show unity," said counter-demonstrator Rosa Romero, 25, of Los Angeles, as she took a break from painting signs. "I'm here to show support for the community."

[stepnw1f]

1. Awesome!!!!

Cheers from Boston!!!!

[LightningFlash]

2. Go California!!!!

Pickets and protest riots!!!! Throw S. out office!!!! :yourock: :yourock:

Florida needs to do the same thing, and get Jeb Bush the hell out of there!!!! :thumbsup:

[autorank]

3. LightningFlash, Florida's Next!

:hi:

[calimary]

24. We ABSOLUTELY need to hit the streets. This, so far, is good but not

enough. Not NEARLY enough. And it has to spread across the country. It has to literally FORCE news coverage because it's happening everywhere.

Good but not good enough. We need FAR, FAR more than this.

[LightningFlash]

33. Yep.

So time to organize all of them and start filling!!

http://www.pdamerica.com

Report for duty! :patriot:

[wildeyed]

4. 600!!!!!

Way to go LA! :yourock:

[Carla in Ca]

5. Autorank, as an Angeleno gal myself

may I say...YIPPEEEE!

PS-Give me a heads up for anything else you hear about. If I can, I will be there!

[autorank]

6. Will do Carla...I'm noticing a whole lot of Bear Flag Republic avatars

...you folks cooking up something special for us out there.

California is just rokken the past six months.

AMF Arnie!

:hi:

[Carla in Ca]

9. Well, first we get the groper

out of here and then we will see what else we can do. His mistake to try to take on nurses and teachers. Even the LA Times is starting to write stinging editorials (about time).

:hi:

[AX10]

7. Bless them!

This is a good sign to see the Latinos defend themselves. It's about time.

[AuntiBush]

29. Was thinking the same thing... It Certainly is about damn time.

Good for them and they did look very peaceful and proud.

One poster above is correct: We do need to do this don't we. Unfortunate for me, I live in an area that's deafly blind, willfully at that.

Good for CA!

And make sure "S" final line as he's leaving is "I won't be baauuck!"

[Cha]

8. Viva the Real

California!

600 to 60..I love it!

[tommcintyre]

10. Maybe the Gropenator's people got a guilty conscience?

First, California was "appropriated" from the hispanics; then Arnie and his buddies apropriated the state from everyone else.
:grr:

[Helga Scow Stern]

11. If the Norquist-Enron-Bush -Rove-Schwarzenegger cartel

manages to undo Kevin Shelley's protections and steal the next election--the "special" election on November 8--there will be Hell to pay....

[autorank]

12. Ojai Person, You give him the truth and he just thinks it's Hell!

The special election is the lab experiment for catching fraud. I'm sure that there will be many highly intelligent minds and sharp eyes watching their every step. Field can do an exit poll!!! haha...international observers.

When I visited Sacramento in the late 80's a major state official said, if the Mexican Americans would just organize, they'd be the power source in the state (it was no big deal, we were at a party and he was drunk). Well, look at the LA Mayor's race as the macro and this demonstration as the micro.

CA is rokken!

[EFerrari]

13. Does that sign say, "We didn't cross the border, the border

crossed us"?

LOL! Magnifico.

[Joj Bush]

14. I don't what's so great about it

The protest seems pretty racist itself, more racist than what they're counter-protesting.


She doesn't exactly look Native American to me. The great majority of them are clearly not Native American, so they are thieves of the land themselves by their definition.

And if they want to claim that the anti-immigration crowd are just racists, some of their signs should not be admitting that they're illegal. 85% of American are against illegal immigration so I don't see how they are helping any cause.

[LightningFlash]

15. Illegal immigration?

Almost all of these people have passports!! This isn't about anything illegal like the bullshit you've been fed. These people are minority groups who are being persecuted just for being in the country, there is nothing illegal about living in the USA and owning a passport. Closing our borders doesn't include getting rid of all the colors.

Did you SEE OHIO in 2004? That was racism in action, and in every minority neighborhood, on every front, black people had no way to vote and were lied to. That's racism, and the DLC didn't give a shit. There's no exscuse for mixing minority racism with illegal immigration claims, and its appalling.

[Joj Bush]

17. If it was all about legal immigrants only

they wouldn't signs like "Minutemen -- KKK"

Minutemen are not stopping any legal immigrants, you know.

[LightningFlash]

20. Yes they ARE.

Get your head out of fox news and read the official reports. They're stopping everyone they can based on the color of their skin, that's all the minuteman patrols are about. And they're getting even WORSE!

So stop insisting that this was just some benign, isolated case. Its happening all over California and Arnold created his own "special" law task force to deal with "immigrations".

:thumbsdown:

[autorank]

21. LOL...a Minutemen supporter on DU. Congratulations.

You can start a sig group of one (1).

This thread is about people organizing to stand up to right wing extremists. If you want to defend Minutemen, fine, but they're certainly motivated by racism and these SOS folks are without much of a doubt.

It's happening everywhere, smaller groups (Minutemen, SOS) and larger groups (the Congressional Republicans), stupid groups (KKK) and intellectual groups (AEI and their "Bell Curve").

Wake up and smell the coffee. Anyone who stands up and fights the right wing is doing all Americans a favor.

[psychopomp]

28. You are confusing the issue. Minutemen are inspired by racism is the mssg

Do not make this about illegal/legal immigration because the issue is the racist impulse that motivates these people.

Can I prove they are racists? No, I cannot. As an American, though, I think I know my own people.

[psychopomp]

16. LOL "She doesn't exactly look Native American to me."

Guess you don't know any then..

That being said, this thread is useless without pictures of the mural itself.

[Joj Bush]

18. I'm part Native American.

She is at least part "white." Btw I meant to say that she is not full-blooded Native American. She does probably have some native ancestry.

[psychopomp]

27. Congradulations! Now you have something in common with most Americans

Many, if not most of us have some NA anscestry.

Ever been to a pow-wow? If you have a chance, go.

[TriMetFan]

34. As a Latina I'm sad that you feel this way.

"She is at least part "white."" One thing you got to understand those so call Minutemen, KKK and etc.. don't see me or any other Latino/Latina as "white". Also the Indian some of us have is either Aztec or Mayan. Mine is Mayan which I'm very proud of, but of course I do have German, Spanish and African. Does this make me any less better then you or any other American? I don't think so. I'm very very Proud of my parents, because they grew up in Texas when it was against the law for them to speak Spanish in public but that didn't stop them and I'm glad because I was taught two different languages. The last thing I got to say I'm glad and proud to see my brothers and sister in Calf. going into the streets in getting into the face of those wackos who think that they are better then all of the rest of us Americans. Its time to stop hating one another and start learning from each other. :grouphug:

[autorank]

19. The thread is about political response, very useful. Links to pics:

Wide angle
http://readraza.com/bp2/pages/amonument_jpg.htm
Close up
http://readraza.com/bp2/pages/z1_jpg.htm

The pictures are all displayed as thumbnails at the link provided. I got these for you for efficiencies sake.

That said, the thread is about a bunch of really decent people who have had enough of Arnie's close the borders and some Wingnut group's threats. That's the utility of the thread.

[psychopomp]

26. Sorry, was confused...thought it was a mural

I find the explanation of the inscription dubious... Occam's Razor and all that. And the statements on the people's banners in the photos tend to support a view of the inscription meaning "before Europeans came."

Thanks for posting, autorank.

[autorank]

31. You're welcome. Rallies are like DU, lots of people, lots of opinions.

The point is people all over CA are standing up, here at this rally, at any Arnie S rally there are huge crowds. all over the place. I predict this: if Arnie S tries to cheat in the special election in Nov (he already got rid of the DEM Secty of State), HE WILL GET CAUGHT. CA has some of the best election fraud/voting rights activists in the country (not surprising).

Everybody pull together, crush the Republicans, make it a real Golden State again, better than ever!

[Oversea Visitor]

37. Knock Knock

By any chance Sir you know of any freeper around :)

[NVMojo]

22. impressive ....

[Rainscents]

23. California... You rock!!!

:toast: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

[Curtis]

25. We didn't cross the border

The border crossed us.

Downright AWESOME. My chicana wife has a tear in her eye!!

[autorank]

32. My regards to you and your wife.

I got these pics from one of my best friends, long time buddy from college. Have your wife check out his web site. She will like it, I guarantee you!

[Curtis]

35. Thanks

We've been looking at it.

I was the first white guy to be elected president to one of the chartered MEChA Orgs back in the day. And, we both used to work for the UFW, I was an organizer for the grape boycott in San Diego back in the late 80's early 90's. We did such a great job we got to have an extended private sit and visit Cesar when he visited San Diego State in 1989. He then invited us to him home for dinner, which we attended the following year. We still do not eat grapes and tear up when we think of him.

[autorank]

36. Welcome to DU!!! (should have said that earlier). Chavez-a great man!

:hi:

on edit: you probably know about this but check out

www.pocho.com the latino DU with a twist

[Curtis]

38. Thanks again.

Been here for over a year, but just haven't said much lately. Stopping my over medication has really opened me up to like I used to be :D

[Amaryllis]

30. kick

[paineinthearse]

39. This is what we need to do everywhere

I'm heartened to see this kind of turnout. Similar recent counter-demonstrations in the peoples' republic of cambridge (army) and elsewhere in Mass (Westboro Baptist Church) has received very little DU action.