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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:30 PM
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My Response to Ed Gordon. His6/21 Roundtable spoke of "Mock" DSM Hearings
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 10:34 PM by KaliTracy
and Democrats "forgetting" about African Americans.... (NPR's News and Notes)

you can access the show to listen here: http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=11&prgDate=06-21-2005&view=storyview

Mr. Gordon:

I listen to your show during my lunch break almost every day of the week. Today I was running errands, so I heard parts of the Downing Street Minutes discussion with the congressman Charlie Rangel, and then the commentary about the Downing Street Minutes in which the commentator said at the end, to paraphrase, no matter what your political affiliation, the contents and the supporting evidence around this issue should concern us all. Then you mentioned you would have an alternative view tomorrow, which is fine.

But when you opened your roundtable with words like Democrats holding “mock” hearings in the Basement of Capital Hill calling for impeachment, your tone and attitude and, dare I say your words, conveyed that you thought that they had gone off the Deep End. I have two points to make about the roundtable, so I will stay on this topic first.

Representative John Conyers was deeply disturbed when the Downing Street Minutes came to light. Representative Conyers first released a letter to President Bush, which at first 88 congress people also signed (this then went to 93). In it he asked a few simple questions, which were simply ignored by the White House and its staff. So, Representative Conyers then put the letter on his website*, and gathered over 500,000 signatures from the American People, along with 13 additional members of congress, and delivered them to an aid between the gates of the White House (as no one else would receive them). They wouldn’t even give him the courtesy of opening the gate. Allow me to repeat myself: over half a million people signed this letter.** He had scheduled a hearing about the Minutes (in which Republicans were invited, just as they were invited to the hearings about the voting irregularities in Ohio, and which, both times, they refused to participate), however, Republicans denied his request for each room he asked for. He was then going to hold this Judicial Committee hearing at the DNC, but at the last minute was able to use the small room in the basement, with the DNC as an overflow place. Ironically, an unprecedented 11 floor votes came at the same time as the hearing, which made it difficult for members to participate for the first hour and a half.

How do I know all of this? Because Representative Conyers had to write a lengthy rebuttal to one reporter’s article about this day. He happened to then CC it to RawStory, which published it in its entirety.*** I strongly urge you to read this letter.


My second point concerns what happened and was discussed after this introduction. Somehow the topic became about how the Democrats have lost their way. The discussion then turned on how the Democratic Party has forgotten about African Americans. I agree, Kerry and his team could have probably done more to embrace the African American Voters – however, Get Out The Vote was in lots of areas, mostly urban and rural.

But it wasn’t that voters chose not to vote this time. How many chose to vote but couldn’t because of the obstructions put into their way? What about the Secretary of State of Ohio, J. Kenneth Blackwell, who happens to be African American, and who said things had “gone smoothly” in Ohio, immediately after the election, and continued to stay on this talking point when they obviously did NOT. What about the people in urban areas (many of them African American), who waited for hours to vote (over 2hrs in many places), yet, when they got to the poll book table, they were told they were in the wrong place, and had to go yet in another line, which they did -- if they had the time.**** View this video. Show each member of your panel this video. Each time I see this movie I cry. What happened that day, even if was in one place (it wasn’t) was WRONG. What about the 63 machines in Cuyahoga County that were in a warehouse even when polling places called for more machines? What about the 18 questions that Representative John Conyers asked Secretary State of Ohio, Mr. Blackwell, which never were answered? What about the 109 page report that Conyers put together (which again, includes these questions), which methodically points out the voter suppression and other irregularities in Ohio?***** It has just been published, though anyone can access it for free on line, and has been able to since its release in January. Have you read it? Has your panel? Why not review the video and the report together for one show.

What about Barbara Boxer and Stephanie Tubbs-Jones who stood up to say on record that the voting suppression and disenfranchisement in Ohio were wrong? What about the other members of the House (over 25) who did the same? What about the thousands of American Citizens, who called, faxed, emailed, and otherwise notified Senators and House Members that something was wrong with the election, and that the electoral votes shouldn’t be certified?.

What about the recount in Ohio which was effectively obstructed by the Secretary of State, as well as numerous Board of Elections, so as not to be a true recount? ****** What happened in Ohio unfortunately wasn’t isolated, other states had similar difficulties, but it was important – both for the illegal ways that people were told not to vote (via fliers with false information as well as phone calls, among other tactics), as well as for the fact that Ohio “determined” the outcome of the election. With 88 districts and 11,366 precincts, the results could have changed with only 11 votes per precinct. Oh, but in my upper/middle class/mostly Caucasian/mostly Republican/excellent schools 3 years in a row District, (West Chester, Ohio) there was at least 23 machines in just a one and ½ mile strip. So, we didn’t have long lines, or people bothering us at the polls. And, because the majority of people in this neighborhood have more flexible jobs, even if we happened to have to wait, we weren’t threatened with being fired if we didn’t show up for our shift on time. We just “flex-timed” it and worked later that night. This is democracy?

When I heard the day after the election about the long lines all over Ohio, I was ANGRY. It doesn’t matter the color of your skin to see that people of all races were disenfranchised in Ohio, and not just in a little way. I was literally sick. I wrote all kinds letters to NPR shows, to the ACLU, to large papers, to call out that something was wrong. And unless we do something to FIX IT, it will stay wrong. This doesn’t mean just trying to get more people to vote – they DID try to vote. This means educating communities about the right to vote, about acknowledging that they are mad or disillusioned and might have given up for next time. This doesn’t mean just blindly accepting a bill called “election reform” without understanding it, and it’s about making sure that there is a provision for verified paper ballots, even if it is an electronic voting machine. This means holding the people Accountable that created this mess in Ohio (and elsewhere), but this cannot be done if we (and the media) just let them off of the radar.

So…I understand that it might be easier to blame the Democrats for not “being there” for the African American community prior to the election. I understand that the Rally in Ohio on January 3rd sponsored by the Rainbow Push Coalition wasn’t widely known, even though there was over 500 people present (and at least 7 news cameras). I understand that unless there is a “smoking gun” nothing will be done about voting irregularities. But I do not for the life of me understand how voter suppression and disenfranchisement, which is visible, which is horrible, which is a large part of the problem (not just in Ohio, but elsewhere) was completely and utterly ignored today, and instead, the issue becomes that the Democrats aren’t doing enough.

Yes, this Caucasian female has a lot to say about this, because, frankly, if we don’t talk about it, it WILL happen again. I don’t want that, not in my America. If we are going to go to other countries to help them become “democratic” in their government, we very well better start looking at home, first, and we better start all working towards free and fair elections.

Kind Regards.
XXX
1234 pissed off lane
notmyamerica Ohio


References

* http://www.house.gov/conyers/

** Letter to President Bush, with the additional signatures (including Senators) here http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/letters/bushsecretmemoaddsigners61505.pdf

*** http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Congressman_Conyers_hammers_the_Washington_Posts_D_0617.html

**** Go here, to choose the video type of your choice, http://www.VelvetRevolution.us#020505

***** http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohiostatusrept1505.pdf

****** http://www.votecobb.org/

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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:37 PM
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1. Incredible! Great report that hit the nail on the money...
:yourock: :yourock:
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:07 PM
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3. many thanks...
:)
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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:40 PM
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2. Bravo!
As one pissed off American to another, thank you for writing this letter. It is passionate and true and necessary. Well done, patriot.
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:09 PM
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4. I stewed about it all day (and yelled at my radio during the discussion)
-- after I wrote and sent this I left town for 5 days and have been out of the loop...and had no media or Internet access.

Thanks for reading it. :)
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:18 AM
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5. .
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:38 AM
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6. Did he use the term
"mock impeachment?" Jonathan Gurwitz in the San Antonio Express-News used the term "mock impeachment" regarding the Conyers' DSM hearing, in addition to repeating the lie that Michael Smith destroyed the originals of the memos. (I posted this in the Texas forum.)

Please let me know if he did because if so, I'm going to write another letter to the SA paper asking why they have a columnist whose only source is a fax from Karl Rove.

dg
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:05 AM
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7. I can't rember off-hand, I do know he used "mock" hearing and made it
sound like Conyers just whipped this together and decided to hold it in the basement, and you know, now that I'm thinking about it, he did mention people calling for impeachment, and his tone implied "mockness" but if mock was actually used with that word I'm not sure. I'm at work now, and can't listen to the archive -- it's in the first 1-3 minutes of the RoundTable discussion when he sets it up.

So Karl sent out a "debrief" of the hearing calling this a "mock impeachment"?
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:39 AM
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8. that's what i suspect
if he uses the term "mock impeachment," it would explain how that term ends up in an NPR broadcast & an editorial column in Texas...maybe I should google it to see how many other times it got a mention......

dg
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 01:47 PM
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13. googled mock impeachment mock hearing so-called Downing Street Memo
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:30 PM
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14. but still
it points to someone getting the message out to specific people in the blogosphere & media about what to say. (no big news there, we've known about the faxes from karl/gop since before the election).

dg
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:39 PM
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16. talking points. they definitely know how to use them -- and if those who
are "in the fray" (or writing letters/calling/etc.) don't immediately call someone on any one of these talking points, we've not learned anything.... (for example, I read in another thread how Hannity 'laughed off' the PNAC -- the response should have been a couple of damning quotes from their very own website... ok -- maybe it would be too difficult to always have a pertinate and factual comeback.... but it wouldn't hurt once in awhile.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:42 AM
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9. What is his email address!

This sister is going to give him a piece of her mind.
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 12:14 PM
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11. this is the contact I used
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 12:25 PM by KaliTracy
http://www.npr.org/contact/

Choose the NPR Program radio button

and then choose News and Notes from the drop-down menu.

they ask for a little more information. I was able to write my letter in word (so I had spell check) and then just copy and paste it in the box, and it didn't cut anything off (though some symbols, mainly my dash marks -- became other symbols (squares and question marks) (They sent me back a copy of my letter).

Now, whether or not it actually got to him is another thing -- but they do read letters sometime, not that my letter was short enough to be read -- but in cases like this, I feel I need to back up my statements. THEY are the reporters, and they can then look further if so inclined.

edit: By the way -- I used my real name and address in my letter! ;)
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:02 PM
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15. I gave him a piece of my mind!


I am so mad!!!!

Thanks for the link.
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:03 AM
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18. great ! now... the big question.... will this
be addressed by him?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:47 AM
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10. It's the MEDIA'S job to report Republican dirty tricks and crimes. They
won't do it, so they put all the blame on Democrats.

But, it's the Democrats who can't count on an honest media to support them when they go after the Republicans.

Ed Gordon can be just as big a mediawhore as Howie Fineman when it comes to protecting his position in the media.
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 12:21 PM
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12. what is disappointing in this is the entire roundtable just jumped on
the band-wagon.... I know they only have 10 minutes or so, but for NONE of them to know how many people signed Conyers' DMS letter (and by mentioning such would have put a correction in the tone of the statements), or at least mentioning the problems the election had was simply incredible to me.
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mark-in-cincy Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:21 AM
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17. excellent post
Your words ring so true and to the point! This very ugly side of fact distortion, that is increasing in frequency and depth by supporters of the administration, has gone well beyond normal partisan political spin.

We need to steadily refute these distortions at every turn of the road. I believe the conservative backers of this flavor will eventually hang themselves with all the rope their majorities in the branches of government are giving them. But only if we continue to set the record straight as clearly and persuasively as KaliTracy has here.


Concerning the dems being out of touch with African American voters, I'm not so sure about that. I was at the black gospel church in Dayton, OH days before the 2004 election where Kerry spoke. He really connected there, totally at ease in this black "faith based" setting, as surely as he connected days earlier at the Springsteen gathering at OSU before a crowd of 25,000 or more. But how much of this did America see of it? Very little.

Confusing real issues with "values","faith based reasoning" (oxymoron<g>), & tax cuts caused some dem blacks to vote otherwise, not so much dems not reflecting many interests of black voters.

mark-in-cincy
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