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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:14 PM
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MoveOn ad that Chuck Hagel, taking heavy GOP fire, is furious about.
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 03:18 PM by flpoljunkie
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:15 PM
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1. screw him, the truth is the truth
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:17 PM
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3. My thoughts exactly. Hagel is demanding MoveOn pull the ad. Can't stand
the GOP incoming.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:16 PM
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2. Good! Hagel telling the truth will bring out the truth about...
Iraq and Bush.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:17 PM
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4. I would like to see that on TV tonight :) nt
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:20 PM
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6. Read somewhere that it is a $500,000 media buy, so it may well be.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:18 PM
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5. Thats a great ad! (n/t)
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WhoWantsToBeOccupied Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:23 PM
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7. I hope we're not financing his presidential campaign
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 03:25 PM by WhoWantsToBeOccupied
If the guy hadn't stolen his way to "elective" office, I might like the guy. But he apparently did. So let's not make him into some kind of hero for calling a spade a spade.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:38 PM
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11. He won't get the GOP nomination. RW Repubs don't trust him (he speaks
the truth occasionally). They like the TP spewers like Allen, Frist, etc.

Admitting reality seems to be a killer for a potential Republican candidate.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:26 PM
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8. GOP's "last throes" . Also saw a History Channel thing on
Blackhawk Down: The True Story and GHWBush sent troops into Somalia, but the DeltaForce/Rangers were upset that Clinton pulled them from their incoherent mission in Mogadishu. Clinton made the right call:

Every time the Powell Doctrine has been ignored, bad things happen militarily. No 'overpowering force', no exit strategy, no clearly defined and PUBLICLY SUPPORTED mission...
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:28 PM
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9. The sweet fragrance of karma in the afternoon
I know Hagel has his admirers here. But I think he may be getting his just desserts. I'm referring to how it's rumored that he stole his first election because his old company's voting machines were used in that election. So, I say - whut-evah.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:33 PM
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10. No reason to pull it. It is true - he said it and it is effective
because he is a Republican.

Absolutely NO reason in the world to pull the ad.

This could be great if it gets the ad a lot of free airplay on the Corp. news channels.

You need a little controversy to get something played, thanks for complaining, Chuck!
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:42 PM
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12. He's boxed in
he can't say he didn't say it or he recants.
Well , I guess there'll be one less repub in the 08 race. GOOD !
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:25 PM
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13. Where is he taking "heavy GOP fire"? I don't him being attacked at all...
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 04:29 PM by ClarkUSA
by Karl Rove or anyone. He does own 35% of ES&S, stole his first election through them so as far as I am concerned, he's got to be complicit in what many think happened in Ohio and other states this past year.

Hagel is being very calculating - he's positioning himself to split off/pick up the McCain primary vote in Iowa and NH. He wants to play both sides of the fence and this ad and his reaction highlights this tendency.

Despite his moving-to-the-center carefully-scripted "maverick" rhetoric, he was going to vote with Frist to get rid of the filibuster so I think it's pretty clear which side of the aisle he really supports when the rubber hits the road.

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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:27 PM
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17. The man himself, Cheney, has said Hagel is flat wrong regardiing Iraq.
And I would expect the right-wing radio howlers are on his case. They take their marching orders from Cheney.
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:01 PM
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14. Hey, he said it. Too bad.
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 05:02 PM by Goldeneye
If they can use what democrats say in their ads, then we can use what repubs say in ours.

See here
http://www.gop.com/
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:05 PM
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15. They should air it before AND after the chimp's speech n/t
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:11 PM
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16. what stations are airing it? has anyone seen it on tv yet?
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