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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:50 AM
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RedState.Org 2008 Presidential Candidate Rankings - Week 5
http://zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=11497

2008 Republican Presidential Rankings - Week 5
Here comes this week’s 2008 presidential candidate rankings:

Republicans
1. Gov. Mike Huckabee (Arkansas) You might be wondering: how can someone that virtually no one knows be ranked the number-one presidential candidate of the incumbent party for an election over three years away? Well, the easy answer is that there’s very little unattractive about Huckabee’s candidacy. When all the other candidates are moving down, Huckabee stays stable and solid. So when everybody else hits the skids, a “nobody” like Huckabee can end up at the top. Don’t be surprised if he’s up here a lot, though. He’s got what it takes, independent of how poorly other candidates might be doing.
2. Gov. Mitt Romney (Massachusetts) It’s tough to have a candidate that might not even be able to run in the top spot, so Romney’s moved down a slot for this week after the announcement that his wife’s case of multiple sclerosis may cause him - like former US Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.), whose wife is suffering from cancer - to pass up the 2008 race. Romney also said that he is currently focused on re-election in 2006, which would indicate another move to the left and possibly placing himself outside of the GOP mainstream for 2008.
3. US Sen. George Allen (Virginia) Allen was very well received in New Hampshire this past week. He is focused on re-election in a fairly solidly conservative state, which will likely only reinforce his already strong conservative credentials. If there is one or more very strong Deep South candidate in the race, Allen might have trouble in very significant primaries like South Carolina and Georgia. But, that being said, Allen can win New Hampshire. He’ll need to perhaps get lucky to win some others.
4. US Sen. John McCain (Arizona) He just keeps on doing well in polling, smashing both Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) and John Kerry (D-Mass.) in head-to-head polls from Zogby America. He’s also leading all other Republican candidates by far at this stage, but that doesn’t mean a whole lot. McCain is the most popular Republican candidate among Democrats and the media, so he will always get a lot of positive coverage. Nevertheless, McCain cannot move above the third slot unless conservative GOP primary voters come back aboard and are willing to vote for him. Such an act does not appear likely in the near future.
5. US Sen. Bill Frist (Tennessee) Rumors and reports from Washington say that a Supreme Court nomination will be made within the next ten days. If that’s the case, Majority Leader Frist may have a very good chance to redeem himself amongst the conservative base who feel that he let them down when he failed to execute the constitutional option on judges.

Democrats
1. US Sen. Hillary Clinton (New York) When Rev. Billy Graham suggests that you ought to run the country, that’s a pretty good sign. It’s not like the complete statement made a whole lot of sense, though. Graham also suggested, in the same breath, that former US president Bill Clinton (D-Ark.) become a preacher. With Bill’s personal history common public knowledge, there are many of jobs that he could hold with dignity, but preacher is not one of them. Nevertheless, any endorsement from somebody like Billy Graham will go over well with independent voters as well as non-partisan voters who consider moral values to be a very high priority.
2. Gov. Mark Warner (Virginia) Like George Allen, Warner has done very well this past week in his visits to primary states. Warner would be at the top of the list if he had gotten an endorsement from Billy Graham instead. Nevertheless, Warner’s strategists received a bit of very positive media exposure as a result of an article that appeared in The Weekly Standard.
3. US Sen. Evan Bayh (Indiana) You know it’s been a slow week for Democrat presidential hopefuls when a boring performance on CNN’s Inside Politics makes its way into a weekly candidate ranking. Thankfully, it’s only one week.
4. Gov. Tom Vilsack (Iowa) Vilsack is a favorite-son candidate in the Iowa caucus, which is nice because it’s a way for him to get way out in front of the other candidates if he chooses to run. Alternately, if he loses on his home turf, his candidacy will be over very, very quickly. Vilsack also likely gained a lot of support from organizations like the NAACP over his executive order which restored voting rights to all Iowa ex-felons. Prominent black leaders in Iowa came out strongly in favor of the move.
5. US Sen. Russ Feingold (Wisconsin) As with Bill Frist, Feingold might find himself with more mainstream Democrat support if he comes out with a strong and impassioned argument against a Bush Supreme Court nominee - if one is made. If there is no retirement, then Feingold will have to be happy with his left-wing activist base for now.
(6/26/2005)
- By Tim Saler , Red State.org
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:03 AM
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1. It's disturbing they didn't even mention Wes Clark as a possibility..
Has the ignore him and he'll go away psychology started already?
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:07 AM
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2. Outside of DU and the Democratic
bloggersphere you'll note that no one is mentioning Wes. They really like to keep the horserace between "credible" politicians.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:12 AM
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4. what do you mean? "credible" ?
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:53 AM
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5. I mean that the media likes to only annoint its own
as being credible Presidential candidates. They like to babble and blurb about politicians they cover from day to day and develop relationships over the years. Clark isn't a politician. Has never been elected and isn't one of the club. So, he is off the radar screen for now.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 10:08 AM
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9. You are absolutely right ! If the right owns the media, which we
know it does, then they are pre-selecting OUR candidate. We can not let that happen.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 10:24 AM
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10. You mean "We can't let it happen AGAIN."
A year before the convention, Kerry wasn't even in sight. It was Dean all the way until the media pulled the carpet from under him. "I Have a Scream" was just the final blow in a long media-driven campaign to take him down.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 10:40 AM
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15. I agree that the media put the screws to Dean. But I think
Dems were complicit as well to push Kerry in the lead. Most thought Dean was too risky and it left a giant void. Kerry was thought to be the best of the rest by many. But our mistake -- we didn't think ahead enough. What kind of person we needed to win. IMO - we needed an anti-war candidate (voting for the war took a giant winning argument away), we needed someone without perceived skeletons (swiftboat)(I don't mean K was guilty of anything -- just that he KNEW this topic had been used against him in races in MA - and we should have seen it coming on a national level with Rove on the case), and we needed someone to engender raw emotion from the heart.(Sounds like Dean, huh).

I hope we are more patient next time around. Don't encourage ANYONE to bow out too early -- fight it to the convention !! don't give them the added time to gather their dirt ! Forget the stupid argument about rallying around someone early.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:11 AM
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3. Well, I remember someone posting after the election that Repugs
they knew were most afraid of Clark. (brilliant, savy, well-spoken, courage of convictions, and military back-ground).

So maybe they (redstate.org) would want to downplay the likelihood of him running and push the people they could eat up alive ?? (i.e. Hillary)

I love Clark and think he would be perfect - but he needs to find a vehicle to be out there all the time. Did you see him on Fox last night. You could tell he was walking on egg shells, IMO. I like it better when he doesn't hold back.

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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:29 AM
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6. There's no way Vilsack or Bayh are that high
Not that it means much now. I agree with other posters that Clark is a notable omission. I'm happy to see my man Feingold up there though. He could definitely win the Iowa caucus.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:36 AM
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8. and MN, and IL and probably ND and SD and MI
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:32 AM
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7. Another 'R' to consider
Chuck Hegel.

He has positioned himself as outside the Iraq debacle which may serve him well. He has been a sharp critic of *'s fiscal policies. And most importantly, he was an owner of one of the largest electronic voting machine vendors.

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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 10:27 AM
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11. This list is garbage.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 10:28 AM
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12. They'll ignore General Wes Clark until the cows come home...
It's soooo transparent....

To list Will Sack and Bye-Bayh and not the only 4 star Democratic General is sickening.

Guess they want a real race. Wes Clark in the race might make it too easy for Dems to win one. The "Can't think out of the box....let's try for the 1992 strategy" dumbass democratic leadership makes me ill!
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 10:33 AM
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13. Is there anything concerning the 2006 races?
You know, something a little more upcoming and important?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 10:41 AM
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16. Well yes.....
We are starting to organize for that now. Now to Aug is the time to hear who's running and to learn the races. Sept to Dec will be the time to join, volunteer, do funraising, strategize. Jan to June '06 will be the time to totally start the campaigns and go to battle.

So I think we are safe right now talking about both 2006 and 2008.

In my area, there will be no real contests, so I will be getting involved in races that matter in order to take back our democracy. Right now, I have started a "Kitty" that I putting money into.....which will be my "give to this one or that one" pot.

I will be writing to the press, etc....on behalf of certain selected congressional candidates....once I make the determination of who needs the most help to achieve the objective--taking back our the house and the senate.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 10:39 AM
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14. Uh-Oh.....
:popcorn:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-01-05 10:43 AM
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17. Funny, not only is Clark left off....
but so are Edwards, Kerry, Richardson and Biden.

Guess they are telling us something, you think?

But Whaaaaaat?
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