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Thu Jun-30-05 02:35 PM
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Video Of Gen. Wesley Clark On The O'Reilly Factor |
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I have now posted Gen. Clark's full appearance on last night's O'Reilly Factor. Gen. Clark did a superb job at knocking around Bill O'Reilly and O'Reilly even joked that Clark was running the show! Video Link -- Part OneVideo Link -- Part Two
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Thu Jun-30-05 02:45 PM
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1. Awesome! Thanks for posting this |
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Thu Jun-30-05 02:48 PM
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:hi: You should alert the mods.
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Thu Jun-30-05 02:49 PM
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I posted the first part yesterday. This is the full part. I thought the DU community would like to see the video of his full appearance.
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Thu Jun-30-05 03:04 PM
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Thu Jun-30-05 02:59 PM
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Thu Jun-30-05 03:03 PM
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He forgot to tell Bill that he is an insufferable meatball.
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Thu Jun-30-05 03:08 PM
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7. Thank you for posting this. |
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General Clark articulated several things, particularly the right way to fight the war on terror, in such a clear and concise way that he put himself in front-runner status for the '08 election in my book. I agree that he sounds like Harry Reid. Just what we need: clear and confident "leadership".
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Thu Jun-30-05 03:16 PM
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8. I'll second that nomination! /nt |
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Thu Jun-30-05 03:27 PM
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9. I've always admired Wes Clark's self control |
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Me, I'd be over that desk and strangling Billy O" until they dragged me off him.
Nice job by Clark. Despite my problems with his online supporters, he is still a good strong progressive.
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Thu Jun-30-05 08:48 PM
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...for that assessment of the interview. Clark's self control and discipline amazes me too.
And, as one of the General's online supporters, I'm sorry that you have problems with me. :( What'd I do? :shrug:
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Thu Jun-30-05 04:03 PM
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10. Ya gotta admire the self control, for sure...where O'Liely responds to |
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Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 04:04 PM by grumpy old fart
clark's reliance on 34 years military/diplomatic experience for his statements with "I'm a political analyst, and I think".....lol....How did the General keep from bursting out laughing?
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Thu Jun-30-05 08:51 PM
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Seriously - watch it again and you'll notice he keeps biting his lip (that is, after he got over the shock of listening to the pompous ass).
:rofl:
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Thu Jun-30-05 04:23 PM
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11. Clark is amazing, but O'Reilly is such a pompous ass |
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it makes me sick to even look at him! "So What if there were no WMDs," he says, "so what if there's no connection with Al Queida -- which I don't believe." What a moronic pompous ass. Grrr...
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Thu Jun-30-05 04:47 PM
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13. He sure didn't want to hesitate to look "at the past" for Clinton! |
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And nobody died when Clinton lied.
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Thu Jun-30-05 04:35 PM
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12. I am so glad I listened to Part two! |
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Clark kicked his ass, and in a nice way!
He told O'Squirrlly how mistreating prisoners gets them international sympathy.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:22 PM
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14. Sorry, I was dissapointed in Clark... |
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I thought he let many lies and outright bogus assertions goes unchallenged that he should have stood up for.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:26 PM
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Thu Jun-30-05 06:59 PM
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21. France and Germany crumbling because they didn't follow shrub? |
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Bullshit. The average French family is in about 10 times less debt and about 10 times more solvent than the average American family (this I know from having lived abroad).
And I'm sorry, you don't just let statements like "it doesn't matter what mistakes in the past were made we now have to deal with reality..." You say, the reality we face today is DIRECTLY related to the screw ups of shrub. You also point out that it is arrogance and unilateralism that has caused most of this mess, and that technically, "little things" like the Geneva convention are international law that we have an obligation to obey (we signed that treaty!)...and you talk about why such laws protect us just as much as our enemies. And you point out little facts like fighting terrorism is a hydra headed monster: kill one and you get two new ones. Don't believe it? Then why has Israel that uses tactics much worse than O'Reilly is advocating still has not "solved" their terrorist problem. You point out that that fighting a war on terrorism is like fighting a war against adultery. Terrorism is like fungus: it grows where conditions are right, and you can scrub and scrub the walls all you want but if you don't get rid of the initial conditions causing it you might as well just torch the whole place (which I'm sure O'lielly would happily agree to).
I could go on, believe me. That covers a fraction of the bs that Clark let slip by.
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:29 PM
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16. This is more like a Cricket match than a Soccer game |
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It won't be decided either by one telling blow or fatal error. I thought Clark did quite well under the circumstances. The roles for both Clark and O'Reilly have changed from the days when Clark got a rare post election chance to appear as a Democratic spokesman on FOX. As an ongoing commentator, Clark can't "go for broke/ at the throat" in every sitting, nor can the FOX ass holes treat him like a complete dog turd the way I bet many there want to. Because the ground rules are based on giving at least the appearance of working together to present the news, the sessions can not be as combative as a "Cross Fire" segment, which means that neither "side" can throw every punch they can think of. Each has to chose its moments carefully when stepping outside of being "collegial", and that can't be done constantly.
If this weren't so god damned important it would be interesting to observe, simply as a study of the media and political messaging. But my gut feeling is that FOX wins if they can pull off a Knock Out or TKO of Clark, and Clark wins if he goes the distance and the match has to be judged on points. I know that is a clumsy metaphor, but what I mean is FOX needs to make Clark look foolish to the majority of their viewers to "win", and they certainly have tools they can use to do so. Clark needs to hold his own and keep on ticking. If he does, he pierces their arrogant mystique that FOX is trying so hard to project, and that opens up the possibility for more viewers to start thinking for themselves and viewing Democrats as sincere patriots with opinions, rather than mere punching bags.
P.S. on edit. I'm betting on Clark in this match
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Thu Jun-30-05 05:49 PM
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And Gen Clark is not going to be able to combat all of the lies that come out of O'Reilly's mouth in one sitting...There are way too many of them. He has limited time and a definite goal in mind. I think he'll be careful to choose his battles wisely. If he doesn't influence at least some of the people watching out there who don't now vote Democratic then he doesn't accomlish what he's setting out to do.
Sure, we might like him to respond to certain things differently but we're not the intended audience. I think he's in the winning the people's trust phase now. He can't come across as too partisan or viewers will just tune him out....Yet he's quietly getting his points in there and they make a lot more sense than anything coming out of O'Reilly's mouth. The reasonable ones out there ahve to see that.
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Thu Jun-30-05 06:01 PM
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18. Clark is beating FOX at its own game.... |
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Clark has credibility, whereas FOX does not. Clark researches before he speaks, and people like O'Reilly just bully their way through things. If they don't have a viable answer, they make stuff up.
Take the, "Who cares if they didn't have WMD's" statement. What an idiotic thing to say! The whole premise of going into Iraq, was that Saddam was an immediate and direct threat to US security. No WMD's, no reason to go into Iraq. It destroyed any credibility that bush had, and ensured that he would be questioned, even if he said the sky was blue. I wonder how many family members liked hearing that O'Reilly didn't care that their loved ones died for a lie?
As far as O"Reilly talking about anything military, especially w/Clark, it is all a joke. Like w/Limnbaugh...these Chickenhawks haven't got a clue about anything with the military. They watch old WWII flicks, and think they know how the whole system works...it is sickening...:mad:
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Thu Jun-30-05 06:11 PM
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Eat the elephant one bite at a time.
It took 30 years for the GOP to have the kind of influence they have in the media. Don't expect Wes Clark to knock it down in a 10 minute interview.
It's about building up the Democratic party and its credentials in the eyes of those faux viewers.
We don't need Clark attempting to correct every single thing that O'Lielly says....Clark didn't have enough time for that. O'Lielly's show is all about gotcha, talk over the Dem guest, don't let them finish, or just don't let them talk tactics. The factor is the worse in this genre of shows on the television. I'm glad that Wes understood that, and didn't take the bait that would derail him from the original point that O'Lielly made.
Some people just don't know how bad that show is. Considering, Clark did a great job. Just cause he made it look easy enough...doesn't mean that it was!
Look....it's pick your battle time....not I'll show him....smackdown and walk off in a huff time!
We have an objective here....and it ain't to make news by jumping O'lielly....although that would be entertaining.
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Thu Jun-30-05 06:50 PM
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20. You probably have a point...but I just want to vomit watching O'Lielly. |
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Thu Jun-30-05 07:33 PM
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22. Me too. Please pass the barf bag when you're finished with it |
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Thu Jun-30-05 07:44 PM
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I could never do what Wes Clark is doing. I give him a lot of credit, but it would never be me. I didn't mind it as much with Hume for some reason, but this piece of shit, bleh!
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Thu Jun-30-05 07:42 PM
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23. Thank you, Mark and Dembloggers.com! |
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Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 07:43 PM by ClarkUSA
What a great interview. He planted some great seeds for future thought cultivation in the Fox audience minds.
O'Reilly - man, what a braying ass. :eyes:
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Thu Jun-30-05 08:00 PM
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25. Wes Clark towers over O'Reilly...even in O'Reilly's controlled format. |
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Thu Jun-30-05 09:03 PM
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28. WOW General Clark Bich Slapped O'Leilly a bit |
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(A lot)
By the way, O'Leilly hates this country and it came out clearly
he also hates the law
And as usual came out with no facts
Thanks this was great
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Thu Jun-30-05 10:18 PM
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29. My how handsome and dignified the General is |
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Thank you so much for posting these nice photos. :loveya: :hi: :dem:
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Fri Jul-01-05 12:08 AM
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30. anti-bush haters undermining war effort? |
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Umm that would make the people who are bush lovers undermining the war effort. . .good call o'reily.
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