Maybe We Should Tone Down the Abortion Rhetoric

[DemocracyInaction]

With the upcoming brawls over the supreme court, the Dem Party needs to "mention" abortion but not beat on it. Why? Because we need to educate the masses (and that will include a lot of clueless anti-abortion fanatics)about what comes along with these type of ultra conservative judges above and beyond abortion: like the possible end of minimum wage, social security/medicare, workplace safety standards, monoplies so that corporate America can rape us at will, right to sue corporations or doctors if they injure or kill, and list goes on and on. The masses don't know this. Even anti-abortion nutcases don't realize this. Those are the messages we damn well better get out there and quick. If we simply rag on abortion or gay marriage, etc., the public will turn us off as usual. Mention some of the above and it will get their attention. I hope our leaders realize this.

[ThumperDumper]

1. But don't forget...

That at least 60% of americans support the right to have an abortion and think of it as a medical decision. The polls go HIGHER when worded as "between a woman and her doctor".

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[democracyindanger]

11. EXACTLY

I don't know what purported liberals are thinking when they say things like "Hey, let's tone down the abortion rhetoric." The majority of Americans believe in a woman's right to choose. Period.

[papau]

2. I agree! :-)

:-)

[Mountainman]

3. My thinking is that the right would not listen to you anyway.

The working stiff right wingers like the freepers are salivating at the thought of overturning Roe and forcing gays back in closet. They don't know what they will be doing to themselves and nothing we could say would ever get through their thick skulls.
Remember they always vote against their own best interests so why would they change now.

[BattyDem]

5. Imagine their surprise when ...

they wake up the morning after Roe is overturned and gays are closeted - and they realize that their lives suck and there's no one left to blame! :eyes:

I agree - RWers are not going to listen no matter what we say. What we REALLY need to do is educate the masses about the RW agenda and make them understand what they're trying to do to our lives and our government. We need to point out that whenever religion and government are mixed, the results are disastrous for the people and for freedom. Make them see the parallels between the Muslim theocracies and what the RW is trying to do in our country. NO AMERICAN likes to be told what to do!

[zulchzulu]

4. Nope...instead of calling it "abortion", call it "reproductive freedom"

It's that simple. Do we want the government to control our reproductive freedom? It's more than the right "to have an abortion".

Taking away the freedom of reproductive options and medical procedures is NOT an option.

[BattyDem]

6. That's a GREAT idea!

As I said in my post above ... NO AMERICAN likes to be told what to do!

[CrispyQ]

8. Kudos! That is a great way to frame it!

If they deny women the medical procedure of abortion, what will be the next medical procedure they deny, proctologic exams as they too closely imitate anal sex? Most likely, though it will be another procedure exclusive to women, not men.

[ThumperDumper]

9. Yes!

Call Dean! Now!

You just earned your merit badge for Political Strategy.

[OKDem08]

12. Zulchzulu

I think that would be a better way to frame the argument.
It's accurate & would be more effective than anti or pro rhetoric.
The discussion then could also include issues such as women being unable to fill birth control prescriptions due to their pharmacist's personal opposition.

[madmom]

7. No.. they are anti choice!....n/t

[gulliver]

13. Also, "abortion prohibitionists" n/t

[meow2u3]

15. Perfect frame!

Abortion prohibitionists, or abortion abolitionists, as opposed to a consistent life ethic, which also includes, but isn't limited to: death penalty, discrimination, war, poverty, greed, economic injustice, and euthanasia abolitionists.

[KingFlorez]

10. We're not the ones bring the issue up

It's the right-wing that is always using the issue. They use it to cover up for their ineffectiveness on almost every issue.

[meow2u3]

14. We should expose the ulterior motives of the irreligious right

Right-wing anti-abortion fanatics don't really give a shit about what they claim to support: protecting life, protecting the unborn, and creating a culture of life. What they really want is absolute, dictatorial control over women's lives, like the Islamic fundamentalists they claim to hate but secretly admire.
The right are fakes--freakin' blasphemous liars who pander to people's religious convictions to hang onto ill-gotten power!

Real, progressive pro-lifers (you'd be surprised how many neoprogressives there are in the Democratic Party) not only will walk their talk about defending life--status inside or outside the womb is irrelevant--but also protect the lives and rights of woman without her having to resort to abortion to attain equality with men or to maintain her right to self-determination.

I've been saying this for years, only for my words to fall on deaf ears. We must keep asking why a politician in question opposes abortion. Is it because he or she is sincere and truly wants to protect all life, including fetuses and their mothers? Or do they really want to control and dominate women because the men aren't man enough to share power?