"History did not begin on 9/11" Tucker Carlson gets schooled!

[Coexist]

didn't anyone watch it. It was amazing. There was a Muslim guest who actually had the balls to say that the attacks were a direct result of the war in Iraq, and that history did not begin on 9/11. I couldn't get to a computer (teenagers!) and was sure it would be big news here. Anyone??

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I checked Dembloggers and Crooks and Liars - nothing - I was on the edge of my damn seat with my mouth hanging open - did no one else see this?

[Clark2008]

1. Most of us don't watch the corporate media, except Keith Olbermann.

I know I wouldn't give *ucker Carlson any ratings - even if he does have a decent guest on once in a blue moon.

[Coexist]

2. After Countdown, the tv was still on - and since it was live from London

I thought they might have a good guest on - never expected what I saw!

[Clark2008]

3. Arab people have been saying this for years...

Even though I'm not sorry I didn't watch Carlson, I'm glad he at least had a decent guest on for the sheeple.

Thanks for pointing it out.

[liberalitch]

4. Someone is bound to have a transcript....

[Clark2008]

6. MSNBC's won't come out until Monday afternoon.

At least, the Friday Countdown transcripts don't...

[Coexist]

7. I emailed Demblogger and Crooksandliars

hopefully someone captured the video. Carlson was DUMBFOUNDED. He kept cutting to the conservative guest - like, Uh, help me out.

[liberalitch]

15. For times like these he needs a button to push that makes his tie spin

[txindy]

16. I don't know about that.

I'd probably overwork that button in hopes the tie would get enough lift under him to carry him off-camera. :woohoo:

[liberalitch]

17. Or the tie would get tighter....

[NeoTraitors]

5. I didn't catch the show from last night, but I have been

watching it fairly regularly. To me, when Rachel Maddow speaks, it is the only time someone on TV represents my thoughts.

She kicks the crap outta that wussie Carlson AND whomever else they throw on there to team with him. Probably means she won't be on for too long.:(

[HysteryDiagnosis]

8. If some other nation..... told us..... that after Mexico decided to

slant drill into Texas.... that it had no interest in conflicts between us and them.... and we took Mexico, (Which for this scenario was carved out of our borders by G.B.) and then got the living crap bombed out of us..... well.... I am sure you can see the irony.

Also... if this same country had used us, financed us and gave us weapons to fight off Canada, only to then later condemn us for having them.... AND we let U.N. inspectors in in order to ensure that we had complied in destroying them, even though Mexico was still on our border.... well.... I am sure you can see the irony.


So, my friends, a little animosity on the part of those who see history for what it is and not what we are told it is, "is" to be expected.

Notice the use of the word "irony" instead of "hypocrisy". Much much kinder and gentler.

As an aside... I don't see Iraq being pounded by hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanos or anything of the sort. It makes me wonder.

[Coexist]

9. trouble is - Americans don't want to hear or don't want to believe

the crap our government is willing to do in our name. They call us traitors if we dare to speak the truth, and don't continually proclaim our love for all things American.

[Berry Cool]

10. The terrorists will surely use the war in Iraq as an excuse.

But that will never make it a justification or an explanation, either.

Please, please, please, let's not blame the attacks on the US and Great Britain. Yes, the Iraq war is wrong, but history did not begin with the Iraq war either, any more than it began on 9/11.

Terrorists are always going to use something to attempt to justify what they do. But terrorism is never justified...any more than going to war against a country with no real good reason is ever justified. And that's the bottom line.

[leesa]

12. That's right. The terrorism the US practices all around the world is NOT

justified.

Home made terrorism, like suicide bombs and crude home-made bombs are the technique you use when you don't have trillions of dollars to spend practicing OUR brand of terrorism. Who's been messing with Middle Eastern countries for over the last 100 years if not the US and the UK??

Since when is blowing innocent people up with 5 ton bombs and melting them with white phosphorous and Napalm more civilized then the other kinds of terrorism??

Damned right I blame the US and the UK for this!

[Frederik]

19. It's the law of cause and effect

Every effect has a cause, and if the effect is one you would rather not see, then you're going to have to look at the cause.

[bvar22]

21. I wonder.....

Were the terror tactics used by the American Colonial insurgents against the British justified?

How about the terror tactics used by the French Resistance against the NAZI Occupation of France?

[heidiho]

11. I Saw That - It Was So Great

It's about time that someone called these US news reporters and the American people on these issues.

A dead person is a dead person, period. Jew, Muslim, Christian - that doesn't matter. Somebody's child was killed in Iraq yesterday, somebody's mother was the victim in an attack, somebody's father was killed in London . . .

That guy was so fantastic and really told it like it is. I was glad I watched it (despite having to listen to Tucker Carlson in the process)

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

13. Rewritten history begins on 9/11

I keep thinking about 9/11 lately and the further we move away from it the clearer I see it.

9/11 was the result of one man (OBL) from one country (Saudi Arabia) with 19 co-horts from that same country (Saudi Arabia)who had one issue that had to do with that same country (American military presence in holy area of Saudi Arabia)and attacked us to draw attention to his issue and met with greater than expected success. A virulent brand of fanatical intolerance- Wahabism - is a major export of that same country (Saudi Arabia). And, of course we still embrace our great ally Saudi Arabia and fly them quickly out of the country and pretty much ignore their role in 9/11. They don't even make the axis of evil although they are probably the hub.

We run an unsuccessful operation in hunting down OBL, say he doesn't really concern us much anymore because it's much more important that the new American xenophobic paranoiac energy is channeled into the make believe hunt for WMD and the war on Iraq.

So that one guy has had the pleasure of watching us dismantle the freedoms they supposedly hate us for,impoverish ourselves, be mired down in an unwinnable war and turn world opinion against us. If OBL himself could have directed our response to 9/11, I don't think he could have improved the outcome as it relates to him and his goals.

[Igel]

14. Which war in Iraq?

The 2003 one? That makes little sense.

The 1991 one? That makes slightly more sense, but it's not like most of the complaints UBL had were directly related to it. They were secondary, and parasitic on his earlier complaints. History didn't start in 1991.

Infidel feet on holy dirt; unfair oil prices; responsibility for the deaths of thousands of unconceived Iraqi children; support for governments that the US didn't like, and the population were to wimpy or oppressed to dispose of themselves; and the like. But it always boiled down to "unjust rulers", where "just" is defined not by any Western philosopher, or any philosopher that lived after 1300, and the hatred for/of the US/West was shadowed by hatred for the rulers that didn't implement the correct flavor of shari'a.

[madfloridian]

18. I saw that. I was stunned.

It was the guy in the center, and I don't know his name. He was very powerful. Tucker sounded totally unconvincing in his reply, and the guy on the left kept his head lowered like he could not believe he was even there.

[Pallas180]

20. Yeah I caught it - & as usual Tucker was a jerk - the Arab

was giving the view from their side and the lil plick didn't have the sense to finesse ---argued with him and kept trying to shut him up by asking the other guy to talk.

He could have said, it's good to know that that's the way Arabs view the situation, it could be a starting point for understanding....or something.

BTW, the Arab was right. From the Shah, our brutal puppett on, and before that the Brits with their colonialization....

what a jerk- and they give him a television show? because MSNBC is trying to be Fox lite.