Chimpy repeats "Fight 'em abroad, so we won't fight 'em at home."

[Sparkly]

From this article, linked on LBN:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N09269668.htm

Bush said the London attacks were a reminder of the "evil" of the Sept. 11 attacks and underscored that the United States and its allies were fighting a "global war on terror."

"We will stay on the offense, fighting the terrorists abroad so we do not have to face them at home," Bush said.

(snip)
Bush was scheduled to visit the FBI training academy at Quantico, Virginia, on Monday to deliver a speech discussing the London attacks, said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

"I expect he will talk about the strategy for winning the war on terrorism," McClellan said. "He'll talk about (how) in the short term, it's taking the fight to the enemy abroad and in the long term it's spreading freedom and democracy to defeat the extremist ideology of hatred and oppression."

There are so many things factually wrong with this, it's hard to know where to start.

First, he's NOT fighting terrorism "globally."
Second, the London attacks SHOW that "fighting terrorists abroad" does nothing to stop them from attacking here.
Third, the "long term" strategy isn't going to work as long as the "short-term" strategy keeps making the situation WORSE.


"Now watch this drive."

[HysteryDiagnosis]

1. It might just as well be "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the

blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints", "show me all the blueprints",

[wryter2000]

2. How much will Blair take?

I imagine Blair thinks London is home.

[flpoljunkie]

16. Unfortunately, I think we already know the answer to that question.

[uppityperson]

3. More last throes, got 'em on the run smoking 'em out, another corner turn

Isn't England "home"?

[methinks2]

4. *ush is so full of **it. The London attacks

are proof that taking the fight to the bad guys in *raq doesn't work.
It's the occupation stupid! Jeez.
Here's a link to an excellent article on terrorism and the causes.

http://amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html
The Logic of Suicide Terrorism

snip
"TAC: That would seem to run contrary to a view that one heard during the American election campaign, put forth by people who favor Bush’s policy. That is, we need to fight the terrorists over there, so we don’t have to fight them here.

RP: Since suicide terrorism is mainly a response to foreign occupation and not Islamic fundamentalism, the use of heavy military force to transform Muslim societies over there, if you would, is only likely to increase the number of suicide terrorists coming at us."

[oxbow]

5. Terrorists can't multi-task. Don't you know that?

we have em pinned down in Iraq. Sure, it only took 20 guys to bring down the two towers, the pentagon and (almost) the capitol. But we're doing so well in Iraq that they can't spare a single terrorist these days.

stupid liberal.

[Sparkly]

7. Exactly -- the "Whack-a-Mole" approach to terrorism.

There are nine of them. You whack 'em all, you win, you're done.

[mwb970]

12. They have US pinned down in Iraq!

Clearly, we are the ones stuck to the flypaper.

[AnnInLa]

14. Yeah, using our young people in the military as "bait"

Sucks!


Young Republicans: Fighting the war at home so they don't have to fight them abroad.

[oxbow]

24. yep. Too dangerous to even fly soldiers corpses out of there these days

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1617882

edit to add link

[XemaSab]

25. 19 guys

almost managed to hit 4 targets simultaneously. Whereas we can't get our acts together to find one dude, or fight in 2 quagmires at once.

[Proud_Lefty]

6. I'm sick of hearing this

Do the families of the fallen or maimed soldiers feel comforted that they lost them in Iraq or Afghan rather than at home? Why is the United States so arrogant to believe that its great to blow up innocent people, their homes and infra-structures in a different country as long as these atrocities aren't happening right under our noses? It's wrong, it's wrong, it's wrong no matter where it's happening.

And I might add that Bush is doing nothing to safeguard our bounders and keep it overseas. In fact, the Iraq bounders are wide open too.

[flpoljunkie]

17. We deserve a President who can bring real honor and integrity to the WH-

not this corrupt and incompetent man.

[oxbow]

8. btw- I love the chimp pic! nt.

[dajoki]

9. sounds like a broken record

he was taught what to say and told to keep repeating it. has no thoughts of his own.:eyes:

[ncteechur]

10. So it is ok to bomb an ally as long as it isn't on American soil?

It is just a matter of time. Anyone who thinks we are invulnerable to an attack is foolish. History would tell us that they are probably plotting an American attack as we speak. And if the Brits had no forewarning, what makes us think that we will. I suggest that our homeland security is worse that the UK's. Particularly in places that are likely targets where the administration has sorely underfunded protection measures.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

11. Dear Mr. Bush.

Would you perhaps mind fighting your terrorists in someone else's country? Perhaps France. Or maybe Belgium.

Sweden?

Thanks.

[splat@14]

13. "bring `em on", I guess only means to a certain point. n/t

[mbee]

15. Could the Chimp stay abroad so we don't have to see him at

home?

[mcctatas]

19. Sweet Christ NO...

We'll have no allies left after 2008 if we don't bring Bobo the chimp faced boy home soon and slap a muzzle on the little prick!

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

18. Bush is still a local Texas politician - not an international statesman

Everything he says is geared towards local public consumption and his ratings in the polls. He apparently doesn't care what the world thinks. When he talks about "home", he's only addressing his local base and is unconcerned with the image of America in the eyes of the rest of the world.

[Bleacher Creature]

20. Why don't more people comment on this???

Seriously, there should be a public outcry every time he utters these words. This is one of the most vile and disgusting things a person can say -- basically that our troops are bait.

Damn these people!

[cliss]

21. The awful truth.....

The "Bad Guys" are actually calling the shots. While the rest of Europe waits with sweat building on their foreheads, the plotters plan.

They act, we react. They can pick any venue for their next attack. All we can do is wait. There is really no effective way to protect citizens against bombing attacks.

Bush and Blair can feel comfortable, knowing they have protection 24/7 and it's just ordinary folks that are being blown up.

But....THEY are the ones who will finally say they've had enough, and throw the bums out.

[silvershadow]

22. Every time he says this, I cringe...

I suppose this may make sense as a strategy, but don't you think it is ridiculous to state this publicly? It is like saying to the Iraqi people that we prefer to use YOUR homeland to fight OUR enemies. (Which IS what we are doing). You would think they would or will get tired of it very soon. What a nightmare this is.

[CBHagman]

26. But it does not make sense as a strategy.

Bush is using pollster Frank Luntz's talking points. See link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54906-2004Jun19.html

Bush's claim makes no sense logically or strategically, because his policies have increased animosity towards the U.S. overseas, not reduced it. Moreover, the September 11th, London, Madrid, Bali, and Turkey attacks show we ARE vulnerable over here, and the war in Iraq hasn't changed that.

[silvershadow]

28. I guess I shouln't have said that...I

didn't necessarily mean it. I was rushing my thoughts. More accurately I should have said "Even if it did make sense as a strategy".

[tenshi816]

23. The Chimp only thinks in terms of "fighting them over there",

but unfortunately for the people in Iraq and those of us in Britain, his "over there" is our "over here".

[dutchdoctor]

27. We're training them abroad so they can better strike us at home n/t

[elperromagico]

29. The definition of "abroad" gets broader every day, doesn't it?

The idea that, as they didn't attack the United States, we're beating terrorism is an idea that flies in the face of facts.

[peekaloo]

30. words of a coward.

period.