Wetzelbill
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:11 AM
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Do you all think The Chris Matthews Show is worthless? |
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All you have is a bunch of journalists giving their opinions on stuff that they only half-ass know a little bit about. I trust my own judgement on issues more than I do, say Michael Duffy or Andrea Mitchell. These guys were sniffing around Monica's undies, or swimming with sharks and Gary Condit, while every major event in the world was beginning to develop.
You know what, I read several papers, several websites, not to mention all kinds of different articles, even books, all on a regular basis. I don't think Tweety or his guests are going to be able to delve into anything more than that. I never have learned anything new from them, and I watch the show every Sunday.
I learn more from being on DU for ten minutes then I ever do from all of Tweety's show combined.
I think I watch it because I'm a masochist.
Tell me something I don't know? You suck and you're annoying, so there you go, Chris.
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:12 AM
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:13 AM
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2. Matthews just gets it wrong a lot |
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Hit political acuman is usually off the mark. Sometimes, he comes up with some interesting angles, but they usually don't pan out.
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:14 AM
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3. stopped watching it over a year ago |
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in fact I do NOT watch any MSM
so yes, it is worthless misinformation and propaganda
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:20 AM
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6. I only watch it on Sunday, mainly to hear guests talk about policy |
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Like Russert and Stephanapoulos usually have interesting guests. A lot of time it works so I can say to somebody: "Did you hear what so and so actually said on MTP?"
I started up on all of it when I was an opinions columnist, give me an overview of stuff I can make an opinion on.
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:28 AM
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8. DU supplies my information what happens with the talking heads |
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so I guess I need to thank you and others for watching it, though most things reported here from those shows have provided any enlightenment
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Sun Jul-10-05 12:07 PM
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22. yeah, me too--DUers (+ others)pluck out the most significant bits anyway |
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Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 12:09 PM by librechik
I check out Eschaton, Kos, Digby, Daily Howler, NewsHounds, Liberal Oasis Daou, Juan Cole Media Matters and others--between them, they cover everything.
Nevertheless i catch the repeat in the middle of the night sometimes (guess I'm a masochist too!) and my internet sources have not misled me on content so far.
Cheers for all of you!
:toast:
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:14 AM
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4. we never watch it. Doesn't matter who is on the panel of guests, Matthews |
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taints the whole mix with his idiocy and screaming voice.
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:20 AM
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5. It has value in that future historians will see what's wrong with .... |
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Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 11:21 AM by hadrons
the media in this period of time and we can see what the 'cocktail curcuit' (DC Washington press) is trying to shill ... otherwise there's no value
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:24 AM
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7. Yep, he is a self absorbed pompous ass who parades as a |
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news person just to hear his voice.
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:28 AM
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9. Yep. My thoughts exactly. Delusional narcissist. |
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Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 11:29 AM by TahitiNut
He "thinks off" in public - rarely with any value at all. I'd guess he comes from a "flasher" gene pool.
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:31 AM
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10. Actually, I'm not that thrilled with Matthews, either... |
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He's a bloviator supreme... He thinks talking loud and fast = intelligent. Mostly, he comes off like a jerk without a clue.
His show is a grand expression of him in every way. I stopped watching a long time ago.
TC
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:35 AM
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11. You do watch it because of masochism. |
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Cable news gives you nothing. You give them your time, lots of time. They sell access to your time to make more money, and make more cable "news".
Cold turkey, dude, cold turkey is the way to go. Just turn off the CNN, the MSNBC, the FOX, the CNBC. If someone throws a pie in Russert's face on Sunday morning, surely someone will post it on the web. If something important actually happens, the networks do in fact break into programming from time to time. You can always get CBS radio news or another such thing at the top of the hour, and the hurricane pictures will be shown on the evening news.
Don't feed the bird.
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:44 AM
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16. oh I don't watch cable at all |
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Just the network shows on Sunday. I watch Jim Lehrer once in awhile on PBS. That's about it. I read 99 percent of my news.
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Sun Jul-10-05 12:01 PM
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19. Sweet Jeebus. Tweety's got a Sunday show? |
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I always thought that Sunday morning was the time for the politicians to run their mouths.
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Sun Jul-10-05 12:11 PM
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24. yeah, it's after Meet the Press |
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:36 AM
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12. MUCH worse than worthless |
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it does damage everytime it airs
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:39 AM
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13. It's generic infotainment with LOTS of ads to numb your brain |
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The punditry class love getting all powdered up with makeup and love hearing themselves talk Beltway Psychobabble to each other. Then it's off to high-class parties in Georgetown for more fun.
Whisk me away in my limo and make sure my Blackberry is working... oooh, it's an email from Rummy!
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:39 AM
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14. I wish it were worthless. But it's worse. It's damaging. |
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Starting with that first Bush election, Matthews did his share to destroy the Democrats and help the Bush era come in. I'll never forget how he was such a Bush sycophant in the first election and how he later admitted he voted for Bush.
Matthews is a son of a bitch and I hope he suffers the same media fate as Novak has with his shows.
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Sun Jul-10-05 12:12 PM
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25. Indeed--he spreads the worst lies |
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and he has so little substance that it just winds up repeating and repeating. He will rot in hell, no doubt.
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:42 AM
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15. The journalists are as worthless as the politicians |
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who want just as much face time on camera. I can name perhaps five politicans who "may" actually care about the issues. Probably why I prefer the activists.
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:49 AM
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17. I Stopped Watching Him A Looooong Time Ago! |
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In fact, ever since I've discovered so many "alternative" channels, I rarely/don't watch MSNBC or CNN these days. My gag reflex can't take it.
And as you said, you can get more info in ten minutes here at DU, than if you watched them for a 24 hour time span!
Oh Terry, Michael we could go on and on!! Total DUMBING down of MY REALITY!!
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Sun Jul-10-05 12:07 PM
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23. Big mistake in calling any of them "Journalists" |
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My daughter, spouse and teenage granddaughter are teachers and student in an International school in Moscow. They not only are teachers who work with students from 56 other Nations whose parents work for corporations or Embassies in Moscow but they also socially interact with them. The school program includes various student/teacher trips during the school year and is considered an important part of the International learning process.
They are able to come home for the Christmas and summer breaks and when my daughter who is an English/Theatre Arts high school teacher turns on our news(?), she goes absolutely ballistic. In her words, "What a bunch of crap!" She said that they get better news/information from the European, Asian, ME, etc., stations in Moscow than they do here in the US. As an English teacher and Theatre Arts instructor she is stunned at what the so called "NEWS"/ Infotainment, on the major channels are passed off as actual journalism and honest news reporting.
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Sun Jul-10-05 02:31 PM
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36. Good For Your Daughter!! And Good THAT She |
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has the intellect to see the DIFFERENCE. Of course, you must be commended for your role in her awareness!
Would that we had more of the younger generation following in her footsteps! I fear that THEY are in for such a RUDE awakening!!
Being a Boomer, I too have passed my views onto my 2 children. Unlike "Tweety" who has descended into the dark dank tunnel of the repressed, I have NOT forgotten why The Fourth Estate game into being.
As I walk around from time to time, a mantra sounds in my brain.... We are Doomed! That of course is UNLESS we learn from the past!!
I just listened to a great singer/song-writer from the Virgin Islands who wrote a song called "Quicksand". Sort of Reggae/Rock, I can only HOPE that it will catch on and become OUR future!!!
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Sun Jul-10-05 11:56 AM
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18. But they're "journalists" |
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They talk. These days that is disconnected from actually knowing anything, let alone having achieved any wisdom. They have consultants that tell them what they 'know', i.e. can say. And Beltway consultants are not exactly ahead of the curve on events or analysis, obviously, and painfully aware of it by now. That's why 'inside' information and gossip is so emphasized these days- it's what Beltway chattering class people have that is still marketable.
Tweety is a moderate Democrat, of the sort that was politically tossed aside in 2000 and 2002 and forever stuck in a mindset of the Golden Era of that political positioning, 1994 to 2001.
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Sun Jul-10-05 12:04 PM
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Only thing I watch on MSNBC is Keith.
The Matthews agenda is comprised of himself and his blue collar guy in silk underpants routine. It's all bullshit.
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Sun Jul-10-05 12:04 PM
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The chris matthews show, hardball, and chris matthews are all worthless. He's a bush whore plain and simple.
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Sun Jul-10-05 12:13 PM
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26. It Seems Like He's Gond The Way Of Faux Since He Ripped Michelle Lakin |
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and he did put her in her place. Maybe he got "talked to" about that???
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Sun Jul-10-05 12:18 PM
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hard hitting, always looking for the other side to the story, and his non stop reporting on the stolen election will live forever :sarcasm:
However he is REAL GOOD ON DEAD POPES
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Sun Jul-10-05 12:45 PM
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28. The show has potential. It's Chris Matthews who is worthless. |
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Sun Jul-10-05 12:46 PM
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29. Matthews spread the Gore Invented Internet Lie |
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when all Gore meant, in response to a question, was that he worked long and hard to bring DARPA to fruition so the internet could be developed. For what Gore actually said go to: http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue5_10/wiggins/
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Sun Jul-10-05 12:55 PM
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30. Truthfully, I've never watched a full episode of his show.... |
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Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 12:57 PM by KzooDem
His voice, to me, is intolerable. It's pitch and volume always feel like just centimeters this side of sending me into an epileptic seizure. I've never made it past 10 minutes or so before I've had to change the channel. The man is seriously annoying...I don't think he's capable of having a conversation that can't be heard in Guam.
The only thing WORSE than Chris are the Car Talk guys, with their forced, retarded-sounding cackles.
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Sun Jul-10-05 01:29 PM
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The only thing WORSE than Chris are the Car Talk guys, with their forced, retarded-sounding cackles.
may your key board have a vacuum advance leak problem.
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Sun Jul-10-05 01:39 PM
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32. Oh man, I'm out of the loop - entertainment wise :( |
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Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 01:40 PM by ElectroPrincess
I'm out of the mainstream. Can't stand Chris Mathews, but I think those Car Talk Guys *rock* ... really. Oh nevermind. :blush:
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Sun Jul-10-05 01:40 PM
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33. Yeah......that's them...Tom and Ray Magliozzi! |
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I'm sure they're really nice guys, but OH MY GOD...the only thing worse than bad jokes are when the people telling them are the only ones laughing at them. That's these guys. NAILS ON A BLACKBOARD.
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Sun Jul-10-05 01:55 PM
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34. Matthews is just a pathetic creature. |
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He's one of those fair weather boys that go with the wind. Or, as my grandmother used to say: "He's anybody's dog that'll hunt with him."
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Sun Jul-10-05 02:17 PM
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35. I don't have the problem |
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I don't have cable. Thank the Godess...
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Sun Jul-10-05 05:13 PM
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37. The Chris Matthews Show isn't on cable. |
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It's on NBC, at least here in Central Texas.
Hardball, on the other hand, is on cable.
I think some of you are thinking the question was about Hardball.
That said, I quit watching the Sunday Chris Matthews Show a few weeks ago.
I kept watching it, hoping for some insight, but mostly his panel is less well-informed than the average DUer.
There's a whole lot of conventional wisdom there that passes for incisive opinion.
I have no respect for Matthews himself, and his panelists are too predictable to spend any time with them.
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Sun Jul-10-05 06:03 PM
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The Net is the place to obtain news.
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Sun Jul-10-05 05:49 PM
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38. It's not 'worth less'.....it is 'worth nothing' at all |
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Sun Jul-10-05 06:22 PM
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40. The Chris Matthews Circle Jerk . |
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I stopped watching after the election.
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Sun Jul-10-05 07:10 PM
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41. It makes a good welcome mat for the Olbermann show. (n/t) |
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