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theoldgeezer Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 09:58 PM
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Hmmm... More "outing"?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45280-2005Apr11.html?nav=hcmodule

It's an old story, but... if we're going to get all up in arms... what about this one, too? Seems we got a couple Senators gotta be indicted, no?

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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 09:59 PM
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1. Nope.. already debunked...
.. the names were used long before.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:00 PM
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2. Uh huh. Sure.
Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:04 PM
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3. Holy shit, this makes everything Rove did pale in comparison!!!
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:06 PM
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4. A trip to Media Matters would do you good.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200504120007

Drudge went further than the AP in implicating Kerry. Omitting Lugar's name, he titled the link simply "Kerry Blows CIA Agent Cover?..." The AP article, written by AP diplomatic writer Anne Gearan, reported that Kerry and Lugar both mentioned Armstrong by name during the April 11 Senate confirmation hearings of John Bolton, President Bush's nominee to be U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, and falsely suggested that they "may have blown his cover" by doing so.

In fact, while Bolton's critics had apparently not previously mentioned Armstrong in connection with allegations that Bolton tried to retaliate against an intelligence analyst who corrected the text of a speech he delivered, government, news, and non-profit sources had publicly identified Armstrong as a CIA officer on multiple occasions prior to the April 11 hearing. In claiming that Armstrong "works covertly," Gearan apparently overlooked several significant references:

* Former intelligence official Larry C. Johnson referred to "a senior CIA analyst by the name of Fulton Armstrong" in a January 23, 2004, interview with Salon.com.
* A House International Relations Committee schedule for the week of February 24, 2003, identified "Mr. Fulton Armstrong (Invited), National Intelligence Officer for Latin America, CIA" as a possible witness for a hearing titled "Overview of U.S. Policy Toward the Western Hemisphere."
* A summary of a 2001 conference hosted by the National Intelligence Council (NIC), an agency that advises the director of central intelligence, titled "Prospects for WTO Trade Negotiations After Seattle: Foreign Strategies and Perspectives," identified Armstrong as a "National Intelligence Officer" for Latin America, a post within the NIC that "reports to the Director of Central Intelligence in his capacity as head of the US Intelligence Community."
* A listing of "expert speakers" on the website of the American Management Association identified "Fulton Armstrong, National Intelligence Officer for Latin America, long-time C.I.A. expert in the region." (That page is no longer posted on the website but is available through the Internet Archive Wayback Machine.)

The faulty AP story appeared in major newspapers including the Los Angeles Times, Newsday, and The Washington Post, which actually expunged Armstrong's name from the version of the story it published despite it having been widely reported both before the hearing, as noted above, and in coverage of the hearing.
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theoldgeezer Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:31 PM
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5. Think carefully about this...
of course, the names were known. That wasn't my point in posting...

The story tries to pin some "outing" on a couple senators, and guess what...

I don't know how this guy's name got publicly known... do you?

Was it ever secret?

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:37 PM
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7. Yeah - it was secret, but he was forced out of the CIA
and came forward. It became public knowledge at that point:

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/010338.html - Here's the entire story instead of my posting a ton of different links. The links are embedded in this blog.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:01 PM
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11. Secret?? To say XYZ works at Langley is not a crime. The GOP
released his name and job to the public well before the Senators said anything.

And yes, I did, and do, know that this fellow's name was publicly known.The Council of Foreign Relations knew about it in October 2001: Insight Magazine dug up the dirt on him in September 2002: And the Cubans knew about his shadowy CIA connections in 1998:

Working for the CIA is not something an employee is to talk about, so it is a "secret" - but it certainly not a STATE SECRET.

The covert agent law was passed (making it illegal to reveal covert agents names) in response to the early 80's station chief in Greece being reveal by some idiots that claimed they were helping freedom and the "left", and the harm that followed.

Anyone wanting to can(and all our friends did want to and did) trace back Plame's trips and covers to find out who were in country helpers of the CIA. I can't say how many of the 40 or so folks she was active with were hurt in country - and indeed this seems a topic the media avoids.

In any case, the illegal act was done by Bush and friends, while what the Senators did was no big political or legal deal.
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tamtam Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:32 PM
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6. Damn
They must be shitting their pants over there in Freepland to bring this up. I guess this is a good sign that Rove is going down. :rofl:
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theoldgeezer Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:40 PM
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8. Actually, I consider it
to be a symptom of some media who are in a tizzy to place blame, while not knowing the whole story.

Seems that motivation is displayed here, too.

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:47 PM
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9. Wow
Rove admits to being Cooper's source and they come scurrying to defend his treason.

Now, me, I can't wait until Jeff Gannon, Gay Male Prostitute and WH press plant, has to testify. Now THAT will get some serious attention and set off even more scurrying.



:popcorn:
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:49 PM
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10. A tad late, no?
debunked ages ago.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:14 PM
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12. OMG!!! This is terrible!!!! DU'ers we need a strategy!!!!!

:rofl:
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theoldgeezer Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 04:43 AM
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13. For what?
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 04:10 PM
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14. meant to be funny
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 04:13 PM
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15. Locking
Flamebait from one who is no longer with us.
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