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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 04:04 AM
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Alternative source for London 7/7 terror exersize claim: ITV News video cl
ITV News video clip
speaking: Peter Power, Visor Consultants
http://www.terrorize.dk/misc/london/london.terror.games.wmv (wmv)

The voice sounds identical to the one in the audio clip available on Prisonplanet, which is claimed to be a recording of a BBC radio 5 broadcast on the evening of 7/7.

prisonplanet article
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm

audio clip
http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/090705exercise_clip.mp3 (mp3)

There's little question that there is one Peter Power, former senior at Scotland Yard, now Managing Director at Visor Consultants.
http://www.visorconsultants.com/teamvisor_peter-power.html


If this all this is faked, then someone really went out of his way to do a very thourough job - and if indeed it is faked, it would raize the question: "why"?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 04:14 AM
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1. "How extrodinary" -indeed. n/t
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:08 AM
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5. You see Blair is calling to dismiss an inquiry in to the attacks?
It's in LBN
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:51 AM
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2. CBC now, too:
http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/#night

Peter Power is Managing Director of a London-based consulting firm that specializes in crisis management, Visor Consultants - which on the morning of July 7 was co-incidentally running a security exercise for a private firm, simulating multiple bomb explosions in the London Underground, at the same stations that were subsequently attacked in real life.")

Paul transcribed from the CBC audio:

Solomon: "We've heard something quite extraordinary - could be a coincidence or not - that your firm, on the very day that the bombs went off in London, were running an exercise simulating three bombs going off, in the very same tube stations that they went off. How did this happen? Coincidence, or were you acting on information that you knew?

Power: I don't think you could say that we had some special insight into the terrorist network, otherwise I would be under arrest myself. The truth of it is..

Solomon: But it is a coincidence..

Power: It's a coincidence, and it's a spooky coincidence. Our scenario was very similar - it wasn't totally identical, but it was based on bombs going off, to the time, the locations, all this sort of stuff. But it wasn't an accident, in the sense that London has a history of bombs, and the reason why our emergency services did so well, and prepared probably better than any other city in the world, sadly they have to be. So it wasn't exactly rocket science or totally out of the pale to come up with that scenario unusual though it be to stop the exercise and go into real time, and it worked very well, although there was a few seconds when the audience didn't realize whether it was real or not.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:15 AM
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3. I wonder how mr Power knows it is coincidence
Sure, no-one who has spoken out on this has presented evidence that it is not coincidence, but neither has anyone presented evidence that it is coincidence.

I'd say that it is at least suspicious, especially given that something similar happened on 9-11.
As to it being coincidence or not, the only valid conclusion so far seems to be that we don't know. Which is quite uncomfortable because it is contrary to popular world view.

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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:34 AM
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4. I thought I heard that NY was having excercises too....
But I have been unable to find any links..... did anyone else hear this?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 03:31 PM
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6. well-sourced self-kick
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 04:25 PM
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7. Ban this now! DeKosify it!
How can anyone ever think that this kind of stuff would happen? Kos would NEVER let this crazy talk be online! Cr-r-r-r-r-r-azy talk, I tell ya!

:sarcasm:
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:30 AM
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8. bump
The idea that this was 'coincidence' feels to me as though it sits right on the border of credibility. One could say that the simulation planners did a very good job getting into the minds of the bombers...or that the bombers did a very good job exploiting the simulations to create confusion.

Either way, this shouldn't fall into oblivion.
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