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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:52 AM
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When Did The White House Plame Outing Really Start
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When Did The White House Plame Outing Really Start?
by Hunter
Sun Jul 10th, 2005 at 18:40:09 PDT
Hmm. Via a Paul Lukasiak posting at TPMCafe comes this July 6th 2005 Walter Pincus piece that I'd seen previously, but I admit I didn't really "get" the potential importance of the nut grafs the first time I read it:


On July 12, 2003, an administration official, who was talking to me confidentially about a matter involving alleged Iraqi nuclear activities, veered off the precise matter we were discussing and told me that the White House had not paid attention to former Ambassador Joseph Wilson's CIA-sponsored February 2002 trip to Niger because it was set up as a boondoggle by his wife, an analyst with the agency working on weapons of mass destruction.

I didn't write about that information at that time because I did not believe it true that she had arranged his Niger trip. But I did disclose it in an October 12, 2003 story in The Washington Post. By that time there was a Justice Department criminal investigation into a leak to columnist Robert Novak who published it on July 14, 2003 and identified Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, as a CIA operative. Under certain circumstances a government official's disclosure of her name could be a violation of federal law. The call with me had taken place two days before Novak's column appeared.


Now, here's the thing about that bolded sentence. Even presuming Novak's column was seen at the White House before publication: Novak's column didn't say that.


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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:54 AM
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1. I am missing the point - there is no bolded sentence
sorry, maybe it is the monday morning thing.
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:02 AM
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2. If you go to the link
the sentence is bolded there.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:12 AM
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4. The point seems to be that Rove has an out.
Somebody from the White House (presumably not Rove) called Walter Pincus at the WP on July 12, 2003 and disclosed that Wilson's wife was an agency WMD analyst.

The call occurred 2 days before Novak's column.

The person who made that call might become the fall guy.



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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:29 AM
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5. Rove spoke with Cooper on July 11, 2003 - so help me understand




http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8525978/site/newsweek/

It was 11:07 on a Friday morning, July 11, 2003, and Time magazine correspondent Matt Cooper was tapping out an e-mail to his bureau chief, Michael Duffy. "Subject: Rove/P&C," (for personal and confidential), Cooper began. "Spoke to Rove on double super secret background for about two mins before he went on vacation ..."
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:51 AM
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6. Novak's Article Could Have Been Seen as Early as 7/11/03
July 11, 2003 - Editor and Publisher follows up: New Twist in Plame Game: When Did Novak Column Move on the Wires?

From the Washington Post: "While Novak's column did not run until Monday, July 14, it could have been seen by people in the White House or the media as early as Friday, July 11, when the Creators Syndicate distributed it over the Associated Press wire."

<http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000727193>
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:04 AM
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3. Will we ever know when it first started?
The point is, do we care? The fact is, KKKarl is going to go down for being an ass IMHO.
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Patty Diana Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:55 AM
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7. Here's the wikipedia plame outing timeline
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