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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:25 PM
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Are you a NeoCon? (Take the test)
Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 05:25 PM by nickshepDEM
http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/quiz/neoconQuiz.html

My score: Realist

Realists…

* Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision.
* Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa.
* Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations.
* Believe strong alliances are important to US interests.
* Weigh the political costs of foreign action.
* Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest.

Historical realist: President Dwight D. Eisenhower

Modern realist: Secretary of State Colin Powell

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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:31 PM
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1. Liberal
Liberals…

Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
Oppose American imperialism
Support international law, alliances, and agreements
Encourage US participation in the UN
Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor
Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson

Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:36 PM
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2. I'm a liberal (shocker)...
Liberal
Liberals…

* Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
* Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
* Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
* Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
* Oppose American imperialism
* Support international law, alliances, and agreements
* Encourage US participation in the UN
* Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor

Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson
Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:36 PM
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3. Liberal here. Oops, bad word.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:36 PM
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4. I'm a Liberal!
Liberal
Liberals…

* Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
* Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
* Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
* Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
* Oppose American imperialism
* Support international law, alliances, and agreements
* Encourage US participation in the UN
* Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor

Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson
Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter
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Bellamia Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:39 PM
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5. Liberal

(I'm also part Christian Scientist) I love The Monitor!

Liberals…

Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
Oppose American imperialism
Support international law, alliances, and agreements
Encourage US participation in the UN
Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor

Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson

Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter

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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:39 PM
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6. Liberal - big surprise.
Ok, not really.

On another "test", I was in the same region as Gandhi.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:39 PM
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7. Liberal
I scored as: Liberal (imagine that!)

Liberals…

*Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
*Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
*Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
*Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
*Oppose American imperialism
*Support international law, alliances, and agreements
*Encourage US participation in the UN
*Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor


Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson
Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter


So, to sum things up, basically, toning down the arrogance, acknowledging that other people may be affected by our policies in a negative way, believing that blowing people up isn't necessarily always the best idea, believe that with all our wealth we may choose to actually help people, oppose invading and taking over countries thereby destroying their unique individual cultures and traditions, keep the promised of treaties we sign, learn to play nice with our global neighbors and believe that we should be gaining wealth while others die from the poverty we cause makes me, in the eyes of many unAmerican and unpatriotic fascists in this country, anti-American and against the troops.

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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:40 PM
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8. No shit, Sherlock... of course I'm a Liberal!...
My score: Liberal

Liberals…

Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
Oppose American imperialism
Support international law, alliances, and agreements
Encourage US participation in the UN
Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor

Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson

Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter

----

Every time I take one of these tests, it always comes out the same... And I come from a family of RW Strict Catholic Republicans. Go figure. Probably tells you volumes about how I get along with my family of origin... LOL!

TC

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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:45 PM
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9. Also a liberal. n/t
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:46 PM
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10. Isolationist.
Sue me.
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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:54 PM
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12. Don't worry...
you're not alone... isolationist here.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:56 PM
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15. Me too
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:59 PM
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27. OK
what's your address? :-)
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:09 PM
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40. One answer switched isolationist to liberal
Seems if you want to pull out US troops from Korea your an isolationist, if you want to hide them your a liberal. At least thats how my score tallied.
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:52 PM
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11. Ha! I'm a Liberal!
Liberal

Liberals…

Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
Oppose American imperialism
Support international law, alliances, and agreements
Encourage US participation in the UN
Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor
Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson

Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter

Dee
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Innoma Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:54 PM
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13. Liberal here...
...and I'd like to apologize for that and offer free therapy groups so that we might better understand our condition.

Oh, screw that! Liberal and damn happy about it! ;)
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:55 PM
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14. Having trouble deciding if
Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 05:59 PM by XemaSab
vietnam was a failure or a disaster.

Meh, I'm a liberal.

But with isolationist leanings.
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:56 PM
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16. Liberal :)
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Psst_Im_Not_Here Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:00 PM
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17. Drat and I thought I might be original
Count me in...liberal. And damned proud of it too!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:02 PM
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18. Liberal, but the quiz didn't provide choices that reflect my Socialism
I often had to choose the "liberal" response even though it didn't go far enough, I thought. Typical that a msm quiz would have "liberal" the furthest option to the left.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:07 PM
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19. Liberal
:)
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:10 PM
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20. Realist.
but I resent any comparison to Colin Powell.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:07 PM
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29. Yea! That makes two of us.
:)
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:32 PM
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21. Last time I took the test they said I was a realist. That traumatized me.
I will not take the test again.
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mcar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:44 PM
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22. Liberal
Gee, what a surprise!
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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:49 PM
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23. Shocking...I'm a liberal!!
n/t
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Drnaline Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:50 PM
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24. Liberal.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:57 PM
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25. DOH! Liberal...
Liberals…

* Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
* Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
* Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
* Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
* Oppose American imperialism
* Support international law, alliances, and agreements
* Encourage US participation in the UN
* Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor

Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson
Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter




Huh, Wilson??? I guess this is just about International policies. His domestic policies, especially about Civil Rights, SUCKED the big ONE. He loved "Birth of a Nation" (about the founding of the KKK -- thought they were great patriots) and jailed every left-leaning or labor leader available. A major slime-ball.

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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:58 PM
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26. Proving how big
Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 07:01 PM by ProudDad
a tent is the Democratic Party... :-)



Of course, I'm a California Green...

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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:03 PM
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28. I just took it again
and didn't check any answers because I wanted to see the descriptions of the various categories again.

Without answering any questions, I came out Isolationist.

It makes sense, I guess. :shrug:
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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:13 PM
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30. Isolationalist
Isolationist
The term isolationist is most often used negatively; few people who share its beliefs use it to describe their own foreign policy perspective. They believe in "America first." For them, national sovereignty trumps international relations. Many unions, libertarians, and anti-globalization protesters share isolationist tenets.
Isolationists…

* Are wary of US involvement in the United Nations
* Oppose international law, alliances, and agreements
* Believe the US should not act as a global cop
* Support trade practices that protect American workers
* Oppose liberal immigration
* Oppose American imperialism
* Desire to preserve what they see as America's national identity and character

Historical isolationist: President Calvin Coolidge
Modern isolationist: Author/Commentator Pat Buchanan
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cookiebird Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:14 PM
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31. Realist
Neat test, BTW.
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:20 PM
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32. Liberal --- YES!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 07:51 PM
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33. Suprisingly I'm a realist....
But I took it again and got liberal so... :shrug:
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:08 PM
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34. No surprise here
I'm a liberal.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:13 PM
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35. Isolationist...
Now, leave me alone....;)
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:32 PM
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36. Bump for those who missed it...
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:49 PM
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37. HEY, I'm A Liberal!!
Now how did THAT happen?? Guess I'll stick with it!
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:02 PM
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38. I'm a freakin' librul! How did that happen?
:)
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The Jacobin Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:02 PM
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39. This was a good test.
More than just a yes/no, but choose a position. This was close for me -- just changing the last answer changes the calculated position to a realist. But I came out as liberal, (hopefully more Carter than Wilson) . . .

The answers I chose were:
1. Which best describes your attitude about US efforts to secure peace between Israelis and Palestinians?
The US has compelling strategic interests in the region. America must be an "honest broker" between Israelis and Palestinians. By working with regional partners, the US can help bring about a secure Israel and a free state of Palestine. US efforts in the Mideast help its diplomatic standing in the world immensely.

2. The US campaign in Vietnam was...
A quagmire. The US had the right strategy - it was important to contain communist expansion into Asia - but executed the wrong tactics. High casualty rates and low public support put the US in an unwinnable war.

3. What type of relationship should the US form with China?
China presents great potential dangers - and rewards - to American interests in the 21st century. While the US must affirm China's progressive steps and opening economy, it cannot ignore its repressive human rights behavior, trade violations, and bullying of Taiwan. Ultimately, opening China to American goods and services spreads American values that will influence China for the better.

4. How should the US approach relations with Iran?
The US is simply not positioned to stop Iran's seemingly inevitable drive to acquire nuclear weapons. But as it did with the Soviet Union and China before, America can contain and deter Iran's mullahs and their nuclear leverage. Hard-line Islamic rule in Iran is bankrupt and doomed to failure - democratic reformers will eventually seize the day. Patience and pressure, not preemptive war should guide America's approach toward Iran.

5. How should the US deal with the North Korea nuclear threat?
The US has a moral obligation to battle both the starvation of North Korea's people and deter Kim Jong Il's nuclear threats. There's no easy solution, but the US can make progress with a carrot-and-stick approach of foreign aid and tough diplomacy. The US must work with the UN to keep Pyongyang in check.

6. The war against Saddam Hussein's regime was...
A political and intelligence farce, a diplomatic disaster, a human tragedy, and now, a growing quagmire.

7. What do you think of America's superpower status?
American power was vital to the victory of freedom over totalitarianism. In the post-cold war world, American power is equally necessary to preserve peace, foster freedom, and expand global trade. To be effective, this power must be used selectively, with clear, pragmatic aims, and carry the weight of allied consensus.

8. How should the US approach alliances with foreign powers?
The US must march to the beat of its own drum, but its power is sapped when it marches alone. Healthy multilateral relations are vital to effective US diplomacy. America may not always agree with UN policy or even its best allies, but it can't afford to act alone.

9. How can the US win the war on terrorism?
The US should not apologize for spreading American values around the globe, but its imperial behavior helped inspire the terrible Sept. 11 attacks. The US must relentlessly prosecute terrorists and work to undercut regimes that support them, but to prevent another Sept. 11, the US must stay truer to its founding as a republic by protecting the American people and staying out of other nations' business.

10. Does the US have the right balance between foreign and domestic priorities?
The billions spent on homeland security and far-flung bombing campaigns haven't made the US any safer. With the money it wastes killing civilians abroad and chipping away at civil liberties at home, the US government could provide health insurance to all Americans.
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AlwaysDemocrat Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:19 PM
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41. Liberal here also (n/t)
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:20 PM
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42. liberal
:)
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:20 PM
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43. LIBERAL - what a surprise
But a cool quiz with thought provoking questions.:think:
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:41 PM
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44. One of the hated "LIBERALS"
I never got the memo about curtailing any kind of global education after college.
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rexcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 10:42 PM
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45. Liberal!
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 11:00 PM
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46. Isolationist--I figured I would test that way, hope i'm not alone...n/t
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 12:06 PM
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56. Not Alone...Me Too
Although looking at the description, most of those questions (like immigration, national identity, international law) weren't covered in the quiz. When they say the results aren't scientific, believe them.
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Debs Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 11:05 PM
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47. Liberal
What a shock.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 11:09 PM
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48. Im a liberal
Liberal

Liberals…

Are wary of American arrogance and hypocrisy
Trace much of today's anti-American hatred to previous US foreign policies.
Believe political solutions are inherently superior to military solutions
Believe the US is morally bound to intervene in humanitarian crises
Oppose American imperialism
Support international law, alliances, and agreements
Encourage US participation in the UN
Believe US economic policies must help lift up the world's poor
Historical liberal: President Woodrow Wilson

Modern liberal: President Jimmy Carter

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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:41 AM
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49. Bump. I swear this is the last time...
Maybe... ;)
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jbane Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:17 AM
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50. Liberal...
I was trying for realist...doh!
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:42 AM
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51. Scored as a Realist.
(n/t)
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Wabbajack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:56 AM
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52. Liberal....
....I'm in shock.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:58 AM
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53. Liberal
Surprise, surprise, surprise!

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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 11:01 AM
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54. I'm a neoconservative
J/K

I turned out to be a liberal (surprise surprise).
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 11:30 AM
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55. I'm a fancy pants Liberal Hippie....
I'm going to go have my wine and cheese lunch under my favortite hugging tree now. Peace. :hippie:
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 12:15 PM
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57. Liberal
big surprise :P
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