kentuck
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Tue Jul-12-05 10:56 AM
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The cable networks are in the process of clearing Karl Rove... |
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I was listening to MSNBC this morning and the cute little O'Donnell gal, not Norah, was reporting from the White House. Her spin was that Rove had not given Cooper a "name" and no crime was really committed ...etc... It may take a few days but the White House will lay low, with no comments, and their friends in the whore media will take care of everything. They are using the media like they always do - no matter if it is selling a war or getting Rove off the hook. Surely they see how they are being used? Of course they do!
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Tue Jul-12-05 10:59 AM
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1. Wait For The Fitzgerald |
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He's the one who is researching the case. There is alot that he knows that the press doesn't know. Novak, Rove, Cooper and many, many others have and will testify.
If Fitzgerald decides that no crime has been committed, we still can demand Bush stick to his word. He said he would fire anyone who was leaking information about Plame's CIA status. Rove did it. Fire him!
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:13 AM
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9. He didn't say he'd fire the leaker...he said they'd be dealt with |
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I know it's semantics but so is saying Joe Wilson's wife is with the CIA and not giving her name.
Weasel...weasel...weasel...weasel....fuckers always weasel out of stuff
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:56 AM
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17. They played the George jr. quote on GMA today, he said |
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if the law was broken, the person would "be taken care of". When I heard that I had to laugh like hell. Way to cover your buddy's ass George!
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Tue Jul-12-05 12:06 PM
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20. Thanks for the clarification |
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Does this mean KR gets a promotion and raise?
That's how I'd like to be taken care of!!!
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Tue Jul-12-05 12:17 PM
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Everyone in this administration who's been a complete failure to the country has gotten either a promotion or a Medal of Freedom, so I'm guessing Rove will get a seat on the Supreme Court.
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:53 AM
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16. The person who leaked the info to Rove has to be found and ousted, too |
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because s/he had no business giving him the info in the first place.
:headbang: rocknation
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4_Legs_Good
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:58 AM
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18. Exactly, this is one story that will have legal ramifications and the |
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Mindwashing mainstream media can't just wash it clean. At worst they'll have to report how long Rover is locked up for.
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Tue Jul-12-05 02:17 PM
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24. dont forget...cooper testifies tomorrow n/t |
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:00 AM
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While watching a little of FOX news this morning just to see what the enemy was saying, they were talking about the Rove/Plame outing, and going on about how Plame was in the wrong for doing certain thing, you would have thought that she outed herself by listening to these FOX Fools, they will stop at nothing to be ignorant, they should lose their FCC license
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:00 AM
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3. Okay, so he didn't specifically give a name. |
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He did, however, narrow the possibilities to exactly ONE person. Sorry, but your technicality isn't going to save you this time, Rover.
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:02 AM
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6. No, he didn't specifically give a name to "Matt Cooper"... |
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We don't know if he gave the name to another reporter?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:07 AM
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7. My point is that it doesn't matter either way. |
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He made it such that he could only have possibly been referring to one person - Joseph Wilson's wife. That's as good as giving up her name.
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:42 AM
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13. He did too give a name, she is Mrs Wilson. |
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why is that so hard too see?
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:00 AM
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4. I don't think it is up to them |
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I don't believe that the "media" has any power in this anymore. The power is in the hands of Patrick Fitzgerald. He doesn't work for the media.
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:01 AM
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5. Used? Hell, they are COMPLICIT. n/t |
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:08 AM
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8. Same shit, different day |
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:15 AM
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All the talking points in the world won't make a damn bit of difference if he committed a crime. They can spew all the garbage they want to but in the end the courts will decide.
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:19 AM
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11. If it is all some goofy misunderstanding |
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why did they lie about it? And why is Miller in jail? If Rove did nothing wrong, why doesn't he authorize her to testify and release her notes?
The other point that is getting spin is that Rove didn't know Plame was a covert operative, he thought she was working a desk job. And again, then why lie about it and cover up? Why didn't they come clean last year? And why not let Miller speak?
I will be interested to see if the WH press corp manages to maintain their spine implant, or if yesterday was just some hallucinatory aberration.
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:32 AM
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12. Many in the news media are angry about how this has played out |
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with Miller going to jail and all. The "undisclosed" or "anonymous" source is something journalists and media people value, it is how they earn their money. The administration has hit their pocketbooks and in the case of journalists with integrity and a sense of what is right and wrong, this administration is trying to make it more difficult to get the truth out.
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:48 AM
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there a lot in the press who are pissed off. KKKrove lied to them. It's fine if he lies to us peons, but how dare he lie to them.
Fitz has got a lot. So far the judges have been on his side when he shows some classified documents.
Someone said KKKrove has testified 3 times. That seems really odd to me. Fitz must have caught him on something & called him back in again. OTH I'm not a lawyer & don't play one on tv.
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Tue Jul-12-05 11:51 AM
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15. Well, no one, practically speaking, watches MSNBC during the daytime |
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Tue Jul-12-05 12:03 PM
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19. Unfortunately (for them), that's up to the Grand Jury, not public opinion. |
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Tue Jul-12-05 02:04 PM
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Whether one says "Valerie," "Wilson's wife," or "that lady over there," in any case you have "named" as in "identified" the person.
Someone here today has the text of the law: it's about revealing the identity of an agent, not literally only speaking their name.
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Tue Jul-12-05 02:10 PM
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23. It drives me crazy when conservatives say we have a liberal media |
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I always counter with: "What the hell are you talking about".
Republicans need to start calling the media what they really are:
LAZY!!!!!
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Tue Jul-12-05 02:22 PM
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25. I'm afraid I might be part of the problem.... |
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I can't take watching this stuff on Rove. I just want them to shut up if they aren't going to say anything new. (They=talking heads) Not as bad as the Aruba story yet...
I hate being impatient...
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Tue Jul-12-05 02:24 PM
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26. how are you part of the problem? just don't watch these MOFOs |
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I cannot BELIEVE how my understanding of things like the Hurricane, London bombing, etc are so much more rational since I don't watch the constant hyping and twisting going on at all the 24 hour news channels. It's really sad they consider that "NEWS". it is pure entertainment.
quite simple.
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Tue Jul-12-05 02:40 PM
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27. I just dont' want to lose interest... |
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and have others not watch....until nothing happens at all.
TV is just too easy and time always seems to be short.
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Tue Jul-12-05 02:42 PM
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28. "I didn't say her name, I pointed at her and rolled my eyes!!!" |
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:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:
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Tue Jul-12-05 02:47 PM
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29. This time, it's not up to our |
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bogus "press" to determine what is and isn't and who's guilty of a crime and who isn't.
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Tue Jul-12-05 02:49 PM
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30. I don't agree with your assessment.....MSNBC has been HARD |
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on this story and they have had LOTS of media speaking that Rove should resign.
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