"Freedom Isn't Free!" Do you agree?

[dhinojosa]

I see these fucking ribbons on trucks and SUVs that make the small men of our country look big. I was staring at one of these stickers, and I am trying to figure out if that is really true. So Poll Question is:

"Freedom Isn't Free!" Do you agree?

[El Supremo]

1. Hell, nothing is free! n/t

[dhinojosa]

2. Love is free.

I don't see why freedom is either.

[coloradodem2005]

15. It is?

Even love is something you have to fight for a little.

[4_Legs_Good]

19. Gawd, tell that to my wife!

Heh heh heh

:)

david

[Maple]

3. Seems to be

only an American saying. It assumes you have to fight somebody for it.

Probably comes from the 1776 mindset.

[libhill]

23. I think you are right

Americans put every conflict into a simplistic "defending our freedom" mind set. The truth is, our freedom really hasn't been threatened since the Revolutionary War. The War of 1812 was a sucker punch by Napoleon, to embroil the U.S. and Britain in an unnecessary war, to distract Britain from the war against France. The Mexican War was a war of conquest. The Civil War could have been avoided with diplomacy. Spanish American War, land grab. World War 1, World War 2, debatable. Korea and Vietnam, geopolitics. And on it goes. Even retired Marine General Smedley Butler stated in the 1930's, that war is a racket, and is only justifiable if, and when, it becomes necessary to protect our own shores from invasion. But the politicians always brainwash us into thinking that poor little defenseless America, is constantly having its freedom threatened. What a fucking crock.

[LizMoonstar]

4. Of course it's not free.

It costs a buck-o-five!

But seriously, in a sense, it isn't free - it cost this country multiple wars and a lot of thought and planning, and it's costing us today a lot of effort to bring it back to the US in spite of the fascists.

But does that count in what you're saying?

[dhinojosa]

5. Yeah I don't know

It's just one of those guilt stickers.

[comsymp]

6. Absolutely agree

Wendell Phillips was right: Eternal vigilance is the price of Liberty.

[Totally Committed]

7. If Freedom was Free...

I'd be out in my garden, reading a good book, or watching the Food Channel right now instead of keeping up with all I need to be informed about, and taking action to make sure that there will be freedom for my kids and grandkids tomorrow. You just know if we turn our backs on thee bastards for a second, we'll lose it forever.

So, no... freedom is NOT free... but I don't mean it in a "ribbon sticker on an SUV" sort of way.

TC

[comsymp]

11. Y'know, I'm really glad

that your post is just below mine - they go very nicely together.

[Totally Committed]

14. Thanks!

A nicely symbiotic Part I and Part II!

TC

[fob]

8. It's your responsibility as a citizen to pay your taxes which is to go

in large part to secure your freedom(s). The repukes and their "kill the government" agenda is about as UN-American as it gets!!

[wli]

31. there is a word for it

The word for it is "cryptofascist."

[XemaSab]

9. Freedom is paid for by tax dollars

n/t

[atommom]

10. Well, I don't agree with the unspoken meaning of that statement

when I see it on ribbons and bumperstickers. True freedom isn't free, of course. But they're using the word "freedom" to mean something else entirely, to tell the rest of us to buck up and stop questioning our government about its abuses of power.

[MostlyLurks]

12. Freedom Isn't Free So Stop Bitching About Your Taxes

My standard response to idiots.

Mostly

[dhinojosa]

18. Nice...

hahah

[gulliver]

13. So let's stop wasting our military and money on unnecessary wars. n/t

[RobertSeattle]

16. meaningless jingoistic cliches are free

:evilgrin:

[WLKjr]

17. it costs a 'buck-0-five'

[noise626]

28. yeah...it's got a healthy f#%king fee -nt

[Goldmund]

20. Is being born free?

If freedom is a human right, then you get it when you're born.

[rman]

21. "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance." - Thomas Jefferson

[chaska]

22. It's a meaningless BULLSHIT PHRASE.

[sendero]

24. It doesn't mean....

... what most of the bumper-sticker-owners think it means, but yes, freedom isn't free.

It has enemies from without, and from within.

[Jacobin]

25. "Shit Isn't Spit"

"Bowl Weevils Aren't Tweedle Beetles"

Meaningless Blather for the yellow ribbon crowd.

These 'freedom' waving goobers love the 'Patriot Act' which removes half the fucking Bill of Rights. WTF does that do to their little mottos.

Dumbfucks

[Lindacooks]

26. My father, a Republican, told me:

Taxes are the price you pay to live in a free society.

[chaska]

27. Ask an anarchist....

Freedom is the natural state we are all born into. It only becomes an issue when governments and right wing jingoists, etc., take it from you. I'm not worried about the rest of the world. The ones who will take your freedoms are probably in your immediate or near vicinity.

[whitebear]

29. freedom isn't free, you have to go thru mounds of republicans to get there

:banghead: :hippie:

[nolabels]

30. It's relative, but the kind I contemplate is

Freedom is the absence of value

The biggest problem I can see with it is that some clueless people grasp hold of the concept and use it to turn multi-trillion dollar security structures into dysfunctional basket cases rife with discord then slip their neighbors the bill for it all

[IndianaGreen]

32. Freedom is an inalienable right

Unfortunately, when Congress passed PATRIOT Act it undermined, perhaps fatally, the freedoms that were enshrined in the Bill of Rights.

The greatest freedom is to break the chains of oppression, and that can only come when the working class has, in the words of Marx, overthrows "all existing social conditions."

[NNadir]

33. Freedom is slavery. War is peace. Big Brother is watching you.

[Vickers]

34. Jingoisms -R- Us

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