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Logiola Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:29 PM
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Bush himself was questioned by Fitzgerald in the Oval Office on
June 24, 2004.

is this normal to do in the Oval office? would he of been under oath?
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:30 PM
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1. I don't think he or Cheney were under oath when they talked
with Fitzgerald at the same time, of course, so they could be sure to tell the same story.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:30 PM
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2. If I recall, Bush and Cheney both agreed to speak but not under oath
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Logiola Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:31 PM
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5. so no chance of perjury on them.. smart fellows eh..
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:33 PM
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8. They were not in front of the grand jury
but they were under oath, I believe.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:01 AM
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21. Are you sure you aren't
mixing that info up with the agreement they made not to be under oath for the 9-11 Whitewash Commission?

I don't believe you can get away with that excuse when you are giving evidence for a grand jury investigation.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:31 PM
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3. Me thinks this president says nothing under oath or at least I can
recall no such incident.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:31 PM
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4. I'm pretty sure it was under oath
and they were interviewed separately. Now they weren't under oath when they spoke to the 9/11 commission, but this is different.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:31 PM
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6. do you think this is why Fitz is pushing hard...
he was given a song and dance by bush/cheney
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:32 PM
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7. Shrub and Dick did the same thing with the 9/11 commission.
They don't believe in this "under oathh" stuff! Can get ya in trouble, ya know!
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:34 PM
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10. If I remember correctly they were under oath
Maybe someone can do a google search on this?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:33 PM
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9. Lying to the FBI is a crime in and of itself
The secretary of state of louisiana got 18 months on a bogus conviction for that. I don't know if lying to a federal prosecutor is a crime or not.

Even if you are not under oath.

Could be interesting
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:34 PM
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11. No
This was a particular bone of contention at the time; whether he would be sworn or not.

Neither he nor Cheney was sworn.

I would like to know if Alberto Gonzales and/or the private attorney Bush has consulted (Jim Sharp) was present. I feel certain they were...
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:37 PM
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12. Oaths are only for Democrat Presidents
Didn't you get the Memo?

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Logiola Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:38 PM
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13. not under oath
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 03:39 PM by Logiola
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3668-2004Jun24.html

he was not under oath but as scotty says "Scott McClellan, adding that Bush was "pleased to do his part"
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:43 PM
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16. Thank you for clearing that up
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:41 PM
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14. whether he was under oath or not, it would be damaging to learn...
...that he looked a federal prosecutor in the eye and lied, especially after all the noise he made about cooperating with the investigation. That would make him an explicit and known party to the cover-up.
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zbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:43 PM
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15. If they can't get him on perjury, could they get him on obstruction?
I'm not an attorney, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night... just asking.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:21 AM
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20. Yes
But actually obstruction of justice is more likely Cheney's biggest concern:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4080946

Anybody seen or heard from Dick since this scandal broke open last week? Have you noticed how he always seems to disappear at moments like these?

The Invisible Man
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Logiola Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:47 PM
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17. interesting facts on lying to a federal prosecutor
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:50 PM
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18. findlaw is great....
That citation would appear to settle the matter.
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Bethany Rockafella Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:52 PM
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19. Was Dick there to hold his hand?
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:58 AM
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22. prosecutors do not do this
if any part of the interview could/would be used as evidence. It makes them a witness and another prosecutor has to do any trial that that evidence is going to be used in.

Gyre
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