What is MoveOn alluding to when they say that Rove was fired

[rzemanfl]

from Bush 41's campaign after planting a story with Cooper or Novak? I am unfamiliar with this story and just got home from work. Can someone fill me in?

[City Lights]

1. Bush 1 fired him in 1992.

In 1992, Rove was fired from the Bush presidential re-election campaign for leaking information to journalist Robert Novak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Rove

[paula777]

2. I had no idea .... check out what else that pig f'r did in the past

In 1986, just before a crucial debate in the election for governor of Texas, Karl Rove announced that his office had been bugged by the Democrats. There was no evidence for this, and it was later discovered that he had bugged his own phone to garner media coverage. <3>

In 1992, Rove was fired from the Bush presidential re-election campaign for leaking information to journalist Robert Novak.

[City Lights]

4. Check this out.

This has been posted here, but I'm not sure how many read it:

Senator Bob Glasgow, the Democrat who chaired the hearing, asked the first question.

"Mr. Rove, would you now tell us publicly who bugged your office that you blamed upon Mark White publicly and in the press statewide?"

In his response, Rove showed the language parsing skills he is strutting today as investigators try to close their circle around the operative.

"First of all," Rove said, "I did not blame it on Mark White. If you'll recall, I specifically said at the time that we disclosed the bugging that we did not know who did it, but we knew who might benefit from it. And no, I do not know."

So, why blame it directly on White when you can just explain that he would benefit from whoever did it? Rove did not see any point in pointing fingers. He'd let the media do that, and we did.

Glasgow resumed by asking Rove if he "knew" an FBI agent named Greg Rampton. Rove, just as his attorney Robert Luskin is presently doing, turned language manipulation into an art form.

"Depends on what you mean by 'know,' senator," Rove explained. (Years before Bill Clinton was asking what the definition of is - is, Rove wanted to know what was meant by know.)

The answer he gave the committee proscribes precisely the word play Luskin is engaged in presently as he explains that Rove did not "knowingly" expose Valerie Plame. Federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald will have a hard time proving what Karl Rove "knew" just as the Texas Senate was unable to get Rove to admit he "knew" and worked with an FBI agent on investigations into the offices of the land commissioner, lieutenant governor, ag commissioner, and anyone else who had a D beside their name. Not a one of them ever faced charges but everyone of them endured political harm caused by the investigation and the constant leaking of information in advance about subpoaenas and the types of records a "federal investigator" was seeking.

The hallmarks of a Rove smear job are always the same: leak, lie, defame, obfuscate, and deny. He did it when he began a whisper campaign about Gov. Ann Richards' sexuality. He did it when he used surrogates in South Carolina to suggest that Sen. John McCain was mentally unstable and may have fathered a black child out of wedlock and he did it in the last election when he used the Swift Boat Veterans as a front group to proffer lies about John Kerry's time in Vietnam.

But hell, I don't know how to do anything but laugh about it all because I'm confident he is going to get away with it all again.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/jim-moore/the-knower-of-allknowing_4064.html

[paula777]

10. Wow, he really is just pure evil and as the poster say's at the end of

the post

"But hell, I don't know how to do anything but laugh about it all because I'm confident he is going to get away with it all again."

[savemefromdumbya]

11. The leaker extraordinaire

In 1992, Rove was fired from the Bush presidential re-election campaign for leaking information to journalist Robert Novak.

Now it it take 2?

[rzemanfl]

3. Thank you. Supposedly this was "negative information about

a Bush fundraiser" I'm wondering if that means a function or a person and what this info was. Sounds like classic Rovian shit though either way. Also looks like he was "fired" but not really, just for appearance's sake.

[DURHAM D]

5. Do you know what info he leaked to Novak ? eom

[rzemanfl]

7. Story is here:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/7/11/155029/380

[DURHAM D]

12. Thanks - what a little fucker . eom

[seriousstan]

15. That is not accurate. Here are Novak's own words.....

"Unfortunately, I did not escape Suskind's article, which includes these sentences: "Sources close to the former president say Rove was fired from the 1992 Bush presidential campaign after he planted a negative story with columnist Robert Novak about dissatisfaction with campaign fund-raising chief and Bush loyalist Robert Mosbacher Jr. It was smoked out, and he was summarily ousted." I was called by no fact-checker, who would have learned of multiple errors.

Suskind has confused former Secretary of Commerce Robert Mosbacher Sr., Bush's 1992 chief fund-raiser, with his son Rob, who headed the Bush campaign in Texas (Victory '92). Criticism of the younger Mosbacher, a frequent unsuccessful candidate in Texas, was not "planted" with me by Rove but was passed to me by a Bush aide whom I interviewed. Rove was indeed fired by Mosbacher from Victory '92 but continued as a national Bush-for-president operative."

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn200212...

[City Lights]

9. Sorry, I dont, but I'm sure someone here remembers. eom

[seriousstan]

6. Not true. Here in Novak's own words......

"Unfortunately, I did not escape Suskind's article, which includes these sentences: "Sources close to the former president say Rove was fired from the 1992 Bush presidential campaign after he planted a negative story with columnist Robert Novak about dissatisfaction with campaign fund-raising chief and Bush loyalist Robert Mosbacher Jr. It was smoked out, and he was summarily ousted." I was called by no fact-checker, who would have learned of multiple errors.

Suskind has confused former Secretary of Commerce Robert Mosbacher Sr., Bush's 1992 chief fund-raiser, with his son Rob, who headed the Bush campaign in Texas (Victory '92). Criticism of the younger Mosbacher, a frequent unsuccessful candidate in Texas, was not "planted" with me by Rove but was passed to me by a Bush aide whom I interviewed. Rove was indeed fired by Mosbacher from Victory '92 but continued as a national Bush-for-president operative."

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20021205.shtml

[rzemanfl]

8. Novak has a thing for that word "operative" doesn't he? n/t

[LiberalAndProud]

13. An educational program on Rove from Frontline.

Karl Rove -- The Architect

Examining the life, career and 30-year plan of George W. Bush's chief political adviser -- to build a durable Republican majority and realign American politics. A joint report by FRONTLINE and The Washington Post.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/architect/

[paula777]

14. Just criminal ....

"In March 2001, Rove met with executives from Intel, successfully advocating a merger between a Dutch company and an Intel company supplier. Rove owned $100,000 in Intel stock at the time. In June 2001, Rove met with two pharmaceutical industry lobbyists. At the time, Rove held almost $250,000 in drug industry stocks. On 30 June 2001, Rove divested his stocks in 23 companies, which included more than $100,000 in each Enron, Boeing, General Electric, and Pfizer. On 30 June 2001, the White House admitted that Rove was involved in administration energy policy meetings, while at the same time holding stock in energy companies including Enron."