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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:58 PM
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CIA official said Senate Intelligence Committee wrong about Wilson -
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 11:00 PM by Zen Democrat
and it wasn't his wife who sent him to Niger. CIA official told the Senate Intelligence Committee that Mrs. Wilson didn't authorize the trip -- but the Committee reported it that way nevertheless. Much, much more here that is a must-read.

If you don't subscribe to Salon, get the free day-pass and read today's lead article by Sid Blumenthal entitled "Rove's War".

http://www.salon.com
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:59 PM
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1. bad link
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:59 PM
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2. Can you fix the link? It doesn't work.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:09 PM
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6. Does this link bypass the ad?
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:05 PM
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3. Just use salon.com - Here's some clips from the article:
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 11:08 PM by Zen Democrat
Register for free pass by looking at a 2-second ad for the Tucker Carlson show.

Here's four paragraphs from the article - not consecutive paragraphs - and there's so much more in the full article:

In early 2002, Valerie Plame was an officer in the Directorate of Operations of the CIA task force on counter-proliferation, dealing with weapons of mass destruction, including Saddam's WMD programs. At that time, as she had been for almost two decades, she was an undercover operative. After training at "The Farm," the CIA's school for clandestine agents, she became what the agency considers among its most valuable and dangerous operatives -- a NOC, or someone who works under non-official cover. NOCs travel without diplomatic passports, so if they are captured as spies they have no immunity and can potentially be executed. As a NOC, Plame helped set up a front company, Brewster-Jennings, whose cover has now been blown and whose agents and contacts may be in danger still. After marrying Wilson in 1998, she took Wilson as her last name.

Plame's superiors asked her to cable the field in Africa for routine approval of an investigation of the Niger claim. At Langley, Wilson met with about a dozen officers to discuss the situation. Plame was not at the meeting. Afterward, Wilson informed his wife that he would be traveling to Niger for about 10 days. She was not particularly enthusiastic, having recently given birth to twins, but she understood the importance of the mission. She had no authority to commission him. She was simply not the responsible senior officer. Nor, if she had been, could she have done so unilaterally. There was nothing of value to be gained personally from the mission by either Joe or Valerie Wilson. He undertook the trip out of a long-ingrained sense of government service.

Attributing Wilson's trip to his wife's supposed authority became the predicate for a smear campaign against his credibility. Seven months after the appointment of the special counsel, in July 2004, the Republican-dominated Senate Select Committee on Intelligence issued its report on flawed intelligence leading to the Iraq war. The blame for failure was squarely put on the CIA for "groupthink." (The Republicans quashed a promised second report on political pressure on the intelligence process.) The three-page addendum by the ranking Republicans followed the now well-worn attack lines: "The plan to send the former ambassador to Niger was suggested by the former ambassador's wife, a CIA employee."

The CIA subsequently issued a statement, as reported by New York Newsday and CNN, that the Republican senators' conclusion about Plame's role was wholly inaccurate. But the Washington Post's Susan Schmidt reported only the Republican senators' version, writing that Wilson was "specifically recommended for the mission by his wife, a CIA employee, contrary to what he has said publicly," in a memo she wrote. Schmidt quoted a CIA official in the senators' account saying that Plame had "offered up" Wilson's name. Plame's memo, in fact, was written at the express directive of her superiors two days before Wilson was to come to Langley for his meeting to describe his qualifications in a standard protocol to receive "country clearance." Unfortunately, Schmidt's article did not reflect this understanding of routine CIA procedure. The CIA officer who wrote the memo that originally recommended Wilson for the mission -- who was cited anonymously by the senators as the only source who said that Plame was responsible -- was deeply upset at the twisting of his testimony, which was not public, and told Plame he had said no such thing. CIA spokesman Bill Harlow told Wilson that the Republican Senate staff never contacted him for the agency's information on the matter.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:08 PM
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4. The Salon front page links to a number of different articles.
Can you link to that specific article, or at least tell us the headline of that particular article so we can find it?
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:09 PM
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5. "Rove's War" by Sid Blumenthal. The lead article. It's worth it.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:12 PM
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7. We have to watch a Tucker Carlson ad in order to read it.
:rofl: I wonder if he knows what he's sponsoring.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:14 PM
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8. Most important point why the Senate Intelligence Committee is wrong
This is a major issue they are using against us, and I sure hope our Representatives in Congress realize it, and let everyone know

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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:23 PM
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9. Isn't it amazing that our Dems just let these lies go by without comment?
That's my problem with the weaklings that pose as Democrats - at least the ones that get invited on the commentary shows.

Don't they do their homework? Are they afraid to go out on a limb? My God, the Republicans just lie and lie and the Dems are afraid to call it. Or they are ignorant of the facts. Are they too busy going to cocktail parties and playing golf to READ?

But, really, can they be so blind that they don't know that the Republicans are just spewing KKKarl's talking points?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:34 PM
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11. the best part of the article though was that
the prosecuter will have the last word

screw all those gutless wonders
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:39 PM
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12. Yeah. Blumenthal has some personal experience with SP's.
But it looks like this time there are real crimes! But, you're absolutely correct, no matter what we say, or the blogs write, or the talking-points spew ... Mr. Rove has an appointment with a Grand Jury. I'm sure that he'll be making a fourth appearance real soon.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:30 PM
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10. Rove is looking dirtier and dirtier n/t
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:43 PM
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13. Here' s the Gannon/Guckert connection....
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 11:44 PM by Zen Democrat
Curiously, the only document cited as the basis for Plame's role was a State Department memo that was later debunked by the CIA. The Washington Post, on Dec. 26, 2003, reported: "CIA officials have challenged the accuracy of the ... document, the official said, because the agency officer identified as talking about Plame's alleged role in arranging Wilson's trip could not have attended the meeting. 'It has been circulated around,' one official said." Even more curious, one of the outlets where the document was circulated was Talon News Service and its star correspondent, Jeff Gannon (aka Guckert). (Talon was revealed to be a partisan front for a Texas-based operation called GOPUSA and Gannon was exposed as a male prostitute, without previous journalistic credentials yet with easy and unexplained access to the White House.) According to the Post, "the CIA believes that people in the administration continue to release classified information to damage the figures at the center of the controversy."
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:56 AM
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14. I found this paragraph interesting.
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 12:57 AM by drm604
In discussing the sealed affidavit filed by Fitzgerald, and not privy to the defendants, [District Court Judge Thomas] Hogan stated that the "Special Counsel outlines in great detail the developments in this case and the investigation as a whole. The ex parte affidavit establishes that the government's focus has shifted as it has acquired additional information during the course of the investigation. Special Counsel now needs to pursue different avenues in order to complete its investigation." Judge Hogan concluded that "the subpoenas were not issued in an attempt to harass the reporters, but rather stem from legitimate needs due to an unanticipated shift in the grand jury's investigation.
(The bolding is mine.)

I'm very curious about the shift in focus and "different avenues". Remember, Ken Starr didn't start out investigating a blow job.
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