Scared Into Depression...

[kentuck]

The war on terror is sending our nation into a worldwide depression and perhaps a world war. Make no mistake, it was not the attack on the WTC that started it. It was the manner in which we responded. Airplanes can't fly like they used to. People cannot speak like they used to. People cannot use the library like they used to. People do not have the freedom to move about the country as they used to...and on and on. We have lost our freedom one step at a time and it is haveing and will continue to have a devastating effect on our economy and the world economy.

We will rue the day we permitted this so-called "war on terror". It should have been a hunt for a few criminals from the beginning. John Kerry was right the first time. He should have stuck by his guns. It was a law enforcement issue - not a war on Iraq issue and give up all your precious freedoms. We have permitted a tragic thing to occur as we slough toward a world depression...

[Southsideirish]

1. Spot on, as usual, kentuck.

[90-percent]

2. also

We're a lot more divided than united, thanks to you know who.

A whole lot more "them or us" going on in the USA these days.

-85%

[Village Idiot]

3. I think that's the general idea...

to spend the USA back to the 1930's by the time of the next election...

No jobs, economy down the tubes, enormous government debt...

The RW agenda is to USE these talking points to remove the social safety net ALTOGETHER...

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. Ayuh

[enid602]

5. tourism

I don't know if it's yet come to pass, but I'd heard previously that the US State Dept will (by mid-2005) require visas from all Europeans entering the US, ostensibly because their different countries are not yet able to grant digital passports, which offer greater security. It was also expected that the EEC will then require visas of US residents. Huge barrier to tourism.

[Eloriel]

6. What a tremendous service you do for the Bush administration

apparently unwittingly.

The war on terror is a piece of it, sure, but it's not the cause of the perilous world-wide economic situation we're in. What makes you think this isn't right up their alley, something they'll benefit from?

What, in fact, makes you think they WANT a healthy economy anywhere, least of all the U.S.? And if they either don't want that, or don't care, wouldn't they be work against it, or at least not work much FOR it?

I was fascinated by something I read a good while back about the mafia. Are you aware that the mafia buys companies, then goes in and guts them, taking all the money and whatever else is of value, and then they declare bankruptcy and walk away.

Now think back on the Bush Crime Family's recent doings. Think of the S&L scandal (which I don't know all that much about, but I do know the big wigs weren't hurt, and Neil never went to jail). Think of Harken Energy and George W. Think too of the money George W. took away from his participation in the Texas Rangers after the govt acquired private land (eminent domain) to build the stadium, which bumped up the value of the Rangers.

Think of the Carlyle Group, which benefits daily from fear and terror and war. And Halliburton, of course.

They are (a) raping our Treasury, which Hitler also did, btw; (b) getting rich off the war and similar profiteering; (c) reducing the American worker to the equivalent of all the rest of the world's workers, quite by design; and (d) creating other "problems" which they can then come in and "fix" to their own satisfaction, such as the 2000 election with its "hanging chad" mess in FL, as just one example.

There's plenty of serious incompetence in this administration, but they're also quite willing to let agenda items which are far more evil appear to be simple, far less egregious or venal incompetence, too.

Don't let this administration off the hook. If there's something going on, the FIRST assumption should always be some level of likelihood that it's completely intentional. There's been so much done to absolutely wreck our economy and impoverish the nation with crippling debt, it all HAS to be intentional.

[truth2power]

7. Actually, Eloriel, I think you and Kentuck are BOTH correct on this issue.

First of all, I don't think Kentuck is letting the Bush adm. off the hook at all. I agree that it was not the WTC attack that got us into this mess, but the way we responded. For example, look at how the British govt. has responded to the London bombings. They made it a criminal matter, and apparently have now determined, to some degree, who was responsible. They didn't go out and bomb the hell out of 200,00 innocent people, wasting thousands of American lives and billions of dollars in the process. Kentuck addressed this point quite well.

I think that the FICTION that is the "war on terror" is responsible for the, as you stated, "perilous world-wide economic situation we're in". IMO, the Bush Administration has created this fiction for exactly the reasons you stated; raping our treasury, war profiteering, and reducing the American working class to little more than indentured servants.

In terms of 911, I think it was MIHOP /LIHOP. At some level they knew and/or were complicit, because their intentions were to benefit from eventual economic chaos.

I guess my point is that the WOT is the cause, (or one of the causes) of the world economic situation, but it's a fiction created expressly to plunder our national treasure.