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satireV Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:37 PM
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So the Bush thralls are calling Rove a hero and deserves a medal.
But then claim he didn't do anything.

So in the Bush Bizarro World, doing nothing is being a hero?

Well I suppose so since Condi got promoted for ignoring the Daily briefing threat.

Bremer gets a Freedom Medal for screwing up post invasion Iraq,

So why can't Rove be a hero for not leaking a CIA spy's identity! Hell, just make him a SCOTUS Justice!
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:43 PM
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1. He's a hero alright.
For making Bush look like a lying fool. Other than that, he is just your everyday criminal!
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:43 PM
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2. John Gibson: "Valerie Plame NEEDED to be outed ... "
Gee, is that a variation on the "He needed killing" law in Texas? Unbelievable ...
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:46 PM
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3. Just like "Save America - Shoot a Liberal" stickers
A hero to these people is someone who "courageously" breaks a law to rid America of the curse of liberalism.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:53 PM
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6. Yeah, I've heard about those "liberal hunting permit" stickers
disgusting ... like liberals would EVER advocate SHOOTING conservatives.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:05 PM
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7. The fact that Fox hasn't outed Gibson out the door forever speaks volumes
about Gibson and Fox.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 05:32 PM
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10. This is what I don't understand.
Obviously I'm missing something because I don't watch FOX, but why exactly is John Gibson saying this? Why would any CIA agent "need" to be outed? What would it accomplish that they seem to feel needed accomplishing?

I understand the real reason it was done, and I thought I could no longer be surprised by the way these people think and act, but I just don't get their logic on this one. The wingnuts naturally won't acknowledge that the reason Valerie Plame was outed was as revenge on her husband, but I don't understand what their reason is for the leak, why they feel it needed to happen (aside from them living in bizarro world). As I said, in a normal universe (i.e., not theirs), who would want to do such a thing?

This hasn't been news in the UK that I'm aware of, and I only learned of the Valerie Plame story a year ago (and it's been simmering on the back burner for most of the time since I became aware of it) and I'd be really grateful for some insight from DUers about why the wingnuts are saying she "needed" to be exposed.

As usual, I find myself thinking "if this had happened when Bill Clinton was president, what would the Republicans be saying about it?".

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 06:15 PM
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11. RW NJs say: "Because she was allowing the impression ...
that VP Dick had sent Wilson to Niger to stand." Like she was supposed to come forward and VOLUNTEER the info that she had recommended him and not The Grim Reaper. !!!!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 06:23 PM
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12. This is what the argument is
"Rove is a national hero and whistleblower (hey, I thought the lamestream liberal media loved whistleblowers!!, what about Deep Throat, what about Erin Brockovich, what about The Insider, what about Leaky Leahy who got an actual CIA agent killed???).

Rove did nothing illegal, and was correct to indicate, without naming names, that leftwing Kerry supporter and political hack Wilson was sent by his political operative agency do-nothing not-undercover wife to Africa in order to lie about the President and help defeat him."

snipped from a post by l-dotters
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1929589
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 06:25 PM
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13. Yikes!
They really do have their own bizarro world.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 06:28 PM
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14. Yes and it's all partisan there. No such thing as just being American
you gotta choose sides. Either you are with us or against us!

Freakin' loony toons.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:32 AM
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16. This is the thing that has shocked me the most
since I emigrated in 1986. It had started up a bit by the time Reagan took office (or, rather, I had not noticed it before then, probably because I was too young), but I don't remember the sheer amount of hate the right-wingers now feel towards us. It's scary that they not only don't want Democrats in power, they don't want us to exist.

Like I said, I don't remember it being that way when I was still there. I don't remember people worshipping (because that's what it is) the president the way these people do Bush. Rational behaviour has completely gone out the window, and they really do wish harm on people who don't agree with them.

Karl Rove is symptomatic of this. There are apparently no limits to how low the man will sink in order to achieve his goals. The words "integrity" and "honour" are ones he doesn't know the meaning of.

I have a theory about Rove, and it's that he would dearly love to be president himself, but he figured out many years ago that there's something so repugnant about himself that he wouldn't be able to cover it up long enough to fool the voters and get elected, so he settled for becoming the power behind the throne. No wonder he hitched his star to the Dumbass - Bush was Rove's perfect tabula rasa.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:46 PM
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4. Don't forget, these are the descendants of those who wanted to give
Hitler a Nobel Peace Prize.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:52 PM
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5. I was thinking about this today after listening to the RNC endlessly
defending Rove to the point of turning it around as a blessing for America.

If what Rove did was so honorable and righteous, why didn't he expose himself as the leaker back in 2003 when Buxh demanded the leaker come forward and face dismissal?

It certainly would have made Buxh look like he really wanted to "get to the bottom of this" and avoided the embarrassing situation he's in now.

Hell, to listen to Fox News Rove may have been eligible for a Medal Of Freedom award from the president.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:13 PM
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8. In Bush World compromising national security is medal worthy.
Think of the people he gives medals to.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:23 PM
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9. I've got it! Valerie Plame wrote the Yellow Cake forgeries!
It was all a Democratic Party conspiracy. Plame wrote the forgeries. She planted them in Rove's office. Who gave them to Cheney. Then she secretly sent Wilson over to Africa to "prove" they were forgeries. This was all to embarrass the Presidential State of the Union speech. Rove found out from the British the documents were forgeries. He went undercover trying to expose this conspiracy through the media. Novak with journalistic courage, fearlessly blew Plame's cover. Rove was the whistle blower. Saved us all. God Bless Rove.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 06:35 PM
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15. They REALLY need to think this one through
If the Grand Jury indicts him and all the evidence starts pooring out - they will never cease being reminded about the "Deserves a Medal" quotes.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 04:58 AM
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17. Rove may deserve a Metal,
We may yet have a Civil War in Amerika if this take over of the Bush Regime, the NeoCons and the Fundies stay in power for another three years.
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