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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 09:57 PM
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Rove is suddenly religious?
There is something really amok with this new thought that Rove attends the same church as the Wilsons.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/12/AR2005071200093_2.html

Rove has maintained he neither knew Plame's name nor leaked it to anyone. In an interview yesterday, Wilson said his wife goes by Mrs. Wilson, so it would be clear who Rove was talking about, and noted how Rove attends the same church as the Wilson family. Wilson said Rove was part of a "smear campaign" designed to discredit him and others who undercut Bush's justification for war.

I've Googled Rove's religious affiliation previously and the only thing I could find was that he was raised in a non-religious household.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3944/is_200406/ai_n9431745

But, in May, 2004 he spoke at Jerry Falwell's University and Falwell commented that, "I have known Karl Rove for many years and I am greatly impressed with his wisdom, dedication to President Bush and his love for Jesus Christ,"

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In fact, Rove has never been known for his piety. Wayne Slater, coauthor of a book on Rove called Bush's Brain, told National Public Radio April 29 that Rove "is really not actively evangelical at all."

Rove, however, does have a keen understanding of the importance of the Religious Right to the GOP. One year into the Bush presidency, Rove told an audience at the American Enterprise Institute that Bush expected 19 million votes from white evangelical Protestants but got only 15 million. Rove has vowed to increase that number this year.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162460,00.html

Dallas Morning News Senior Political advisor and co-author of "Bush's Brain: How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential," called Rove, "amoral".

"He's amoral. He doesn't set up a plan to damage, defeat or destroy his enemies because he's evil. He does it because he's so unbelievably competitive and amoral that that's the result," Slater said. "He happens to be a genius, a political genius. Whatever gifts Bush has, he needed the political genius of Rove."


Let me state this unarguably - amoral does NOT equate to atheism!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 09:59 PM
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1. Attending church does not make one religious. It only indicates that
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 10:00 PM by BrklynLiberal
one is aware of the political expendiency of attending church.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:01 PM
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2. I'm sure that the current political climate in DC is such that many
connections are now made at church. One would go to church not necessarily to worship, but to be seen worshipping.
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cdeca2005 Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:02 PM
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3. Amoral Thesaurus.com entry...
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 10:04 PM by cdeca2005
http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=amoral

I like the first entries, and here they are....

Definition: immoral
Synonyms: amoral, barbarous, conscienceless, criminal, dishonest, excessive, exorbitant, extravagant, extreme, immoderate, inordinate, knavish, outrageous, preposterous, sneaky, too much, uncivilized, undue, unethical, unfair, ungodly, unholy, unjust, unprincipled, unreasonable, unscrupulous, wanton, wicked

edited for clarity.
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:07 PM
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4. There will be a special place in hell for this guy,
perhaps in the same boiling cauldron of shit that is Lee Atwater's eternal home.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:11 PM
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5. PBS Frontline interview with Wayne Slater
... Karl was born in Denver but grew up really in Utah, in this area where almost everybody was Mormon, and he was not. He would see it almost every day in high school in a situation where students who were Mormon would go across the street for an hour of Mormon training, while the non-Mormon kids, the minority, would stay behind in study hall.

His family was not very religious. He grew up, he admits, in a nonreligious household. And even during his political career very early on, when I first met him in the middle '80s, it was clear that religion was not something that was particularly important to him. But the use of religious people, the constituencies, the advantage of putting those constituencies together for political purpose, was something that really intrigued him. Religion was something that was never important to Karl. He never really talked about it very much, I think, with people at the time. In fact, I got the clear impression that he was a person who was not religious at all.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/architect/interviews/slater.html
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:18 PM
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7. Exactly
That's why it's so suspect now.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:17 PM
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6. Oh, geddouttahere!!!!!!!
Rove is about as religious as my CATS, for crying out loud!
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:26 PM
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8. Why does everyone cower and claim this nerdy douchebag to be a
genius? Because of the extent he will go to to have someone destroyed in a campaign? And Democrats, for the most part, are behind the curve because we try to play by the rules?

If this is what America has become, then I don't care who wins.

But Rove is the same kind of genius they said Dennis Rodman was. No genius, just outrageous lack of moral character.
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