Do not waste your time - Rove is going nowhere

[Faygo Kid]

Stay focused on this unjust war, and Bush's attempts to destroy the New Deal, and Social Security (he is not done yet.) Karl Rove is not going to leave, or even be criticized, by our fraud administration. Fox News, Sean Vanity, Rush Pillboy, etc. are in full attack mode, as they were - successfully - with Richard Clarke, et al. Of course Rove should go. But, Rove himself would much rather have you focus on him than the deficit, this insane war, the Wal-Mart jobs economy, etc. We have won very little in the past five years; we won't win this one, either. Jobs. The Economy. The Insane War. Don't get distracted. Another disappointment coming, my friends, and be ready to suck it up and fight the battles to come. I will be there with you.

[wallwriter]

1. Maybe Rove, maybe not. But indictments are coming

And the White house is scared. Even Faux News can't hide that fact. Perjury? Obstruction of justice? Even the Repukes admit (or some of them) that Judith Miller would not be in jail if there were not something big in the works. No amount of TV bloviating can change that.

I think your cautiousness is justified, but I see blood in the water...

[laugle]

35. Your post is soooo right! Something serious,

is underway.....but it will take time. We dems can multi-task and be quite patient when necessary. There could very well be an indictment. At the very least perjury. It is so obvious, that they have been covering this whole thing up for 2 years now! Maybe after the 2006 election, when we take back the congress, we will get rid of Delay and Rove!!

[Teaser]

2. So many experts on DU

Always telling us what not to do, what not to worry about, what to focus on.

[wtmusic]

7. Where would you be without that kind of guidance?

:crazy:

[Lex]

19. The "DU hall monitors" is what I call them. nt

[formernaderite]

32. Sorry, but all of this reminds me of the repubs prior to 98

all they focused in on was scandal....no message. Well...they saw what happened in the mid-term elections.

I'd rather the dems were putting together their message for 2006. So far, I don't know what it is, and we're looking at 18 months from now. Running on "we hate Bush" won't garner any more votes.

Karl Rove can wait...there is a prosecutor handling this already....I'm no expert, just practicing common sense.

[autorank]

3. Rove going weakens * and "that is a good thing"...mischief more difficult

That's the reason Rove is important. Of course the War is the big issue, also the survival of the planet given the accelerating impact of global warming ("what global warming, I don't need no stinkin' global warming").

Whomping on Rove serves the purpose of weakening *. Loving him through political pressure or an indictment will be devastating.

* lost his MOJO.

[Zen Democrat]

4. The unjust war, the planned destruction of the New Deal ---

Karl Rove is involved in all of it up to his flesh-colored hair. Don't think for a minute Rove planned this "focus" on himself. He loves to stay in the background weaving his evil web. Taking out Rove will knock the legs out from under this montrous administration.

Again, all signs point to indictments coming down in the near future. In the meantime, keeping Rove & Co. on the defensive is essential.

[mmonk]

5. I don't think they had a prosecutor getting close to

the truth back during the Richard Clarke testimony. Somebody will start to realize the momentum and break from the political charade.

[Walt Starr]

6. Tell it to the judge

There's a grand jury and special prosecutor who have the final say on this. No amount of political spin spins a criminal out of an indictment.

[notadmblnd]

8. Thanks a bunch

:sarcasm: for stopping by and sharing your good cheer. :hi:

[LSK]

9. uhhh, Fitzgerald is totally immune to the RNC attack machine

Rove or more people are in deep trouble. Dont be fooled by the RNC smear campaign. Fitzgerald has the truth and RNC lies mean nothing to him.

[Jane Austin]

26. You are so right about Fitz being immune to the spin.

What the Repugs are doing now is damage control to save some power, save some Congressional seats, save those donations.

[jmcon007]

10. okay. everybody quit. it's over. right?

Bullshit. Not for a minute, my friends.

[aquart]

12. Dontcha love disinformation by moonlight?

[aquart]

11. You're not my friend, sorry.

This is like the smokers who said it was wrong to waste time complaining about one little cigarette where there was all this air pollution... and REAL problems in the world.

Where are those smokers now?

Rove isn't the distraction. You are the one trying to distract us into a million issues to get our focus off the big ONE: Treason in the White House.

[niallmac]

21. Treason is a pretty good talking point!I

[the_spectator]

24. Umm, we're all outside,

having a smoke. :smoke:
(Not allowed to smoke indoors anymore!)

[Faygo Kid]

28. Yeah, right.

I guess I am very tired of being beaten up by the neocon crew, and losing. Geez, I am here in Michigan, too, lifelong. I think I am a realist. But you are wrong if you think I am giving up. I did not expect to be beaten up on this observation. We'll see what happens. I hope all of you hopeful folks are right. I don't think you are, and would still rather focus on Bush's plans to destroy Social Security, the insane war, the driving of the power and money to the top 1%. Good heavens, we eat our own.

[longship]

13. Hmmm. I don't think you're correct.

I think the press has got a whiff of things. Most people around here agree.

I was very politically active during Watergate. There are so many, many parallels between this and that I'm finding myself going back to Watergate histories to help me understand things and put today's events into perspective.

These WH guys are not being very smart. They're clever and they're politically astute, but they aren't perfect. They haven't learned the one Watergate lesson, that the cover-up is worse than the crime. We've had two years of stonewalling on Plame and likely two years of obstruction of justice.

This is very, very big because it allows special prosecutors and a grand jury into West Wing doings, subpeona power directed very close to the Oval Office.

Just like in Watergate, this Plame affair has direct connections to all sorts of other nefarious doings. Once the subpeonas start flowing, there's going to be a White House that is going to be ignoring those subpeonas "in the name of national security" or "in the name of executive privelege". Either way, the public will not buy it. Too many of us remember Nixon's stalling and the Constitutional crises (plural) that the Nation endured during the two years of Watergate investigations.

Worse for ****, the other affairs will also be exposed, or at least enough of them for **** to be implicated. It will be a matter of either he was involved up to his neck and he should be impeached and removed from office, or he was out of the loop and totally incompetent by running a White House which was legally, a loose cannon, commiting crimes right in front of his nose. Either way, he's toast.

This is a very important event. The press knows it. Many of the public are beginning to sense the same.

[laugle]

36. When the press smells blood and finally

gets involved, it's a BIG DEAL!! Rove is looking like an idiot, an seems to be LOSING HIS MOJO!!! Watch the dominos start to fall.......no more tricks in his little bag of dirt!!

[cliss]

37. I'm going to throw in my verdict - and say that

this is a disaster for Washington. It appears that the weak link was Karl Rove. Why is the ship taking on water? Why now? Hell, they've weathered SO many storms. They've been attacked from all sides, 24/7. They kept the invaders at bay.

A few years from now, the history pundits will use adjectives of amazement, astonishment, that they were able to accomplish so much in a relatively short amount of time. (by accomplish, here I mean change, dismantle, abruptly end, re-write laws etc).

So why now?

It's Iraq. Iraq is a massive failure. The Bush administration has focused 110% on that little project for several years. Everything else has been secondary. The losses are staggering. The lives, the cost in borrowed money....

THAT's the real reason why Rove is now the target. And he's going to take them all down with him.

[iwillalwayswonderwhy]

14. That's nonsense

This is the story that won't go away. This is the outer layer of the onion that's gonna slowly peel down to the rotten core. This is sticking and sticking hard.

Meanwhile, most of us here HAVE been focused on the unjust war - AND STILL ARE.

Some of us can multi-task.

[Chicago Democrat]

15. Me can handle almost 20 issues at once....

Me smart

[ScamUSA.Com]

16. grin

[Hippo_Tron]

17. Who cares if he's going anywhere, Bush's approval ratings are going down

The worse the administration looks this time next year, the better we do in the midterms.

[wiggs]

29. Assuming a fair election. nt

[Hippo_Tron]

30. Okay, voter fraud is a problem, but it's not the only problem...

Believe it or not, there are people in this country that vote Republican. Fixing the voting machines is important, but actually getting more votes than the other guy is important as well.

[txindy]

18. Thanks, but I don't think so. You contradict yourself.

You say, "...fight the battles to come. I will be there with you." Well, THIS is a battle and you're obviously not with us.

Sit back. Relax. Watch Rome burn.

:popcorn:

[patdem]

20. I think we can walk and chew gum..sorry..it is not either or..it is all

[Al-CIAda]

22. "These are not the droids you are looking for"

Is this some sort of cheap Jedi mind trick?


Why don't you gather up some Downing Street Minutes facts for us, we should be needing them in the near future.

[ClassWarrior]

23. That's the point!! We don't want him to be fired - but we need to...

...keep demanding it loudly and firmly, inviting other responsible Americans to join us along the way.

NGU.

[leesa]

25. This IS about the war. Don't you get it?

[Griffy]

39. EXACTLY.. you obviously dont understand the Rove issue...

Wilson was attacked (his wife outed) for his editorial exposing the LIES bush told about Iraq WMD program.. those same lies were used to push us into war.. it is SO connected to the war and the DSM and the way bushco shoots the messenger! Its not about any 1 issue, its how they all paint a picture of lies, deception and smears!

Dont throw water on the fire unless you want people to wonder about your motives....

[silvershadow]

27. on some level i agree

but for me anything at all that deflects attention from stolen elections and our completely corrupt politcal system is really hurting us. I liked the meme recently started about the "culture of corruption". I do, however, remain hopeful that one of the big issues leads to another and it comes down like a house of cards.

[electron_blue]

31. I keep getting distracted

I keep finding myself thinking about the fact that Rove outed an undercover agent. Oh what a bad man and all that.

I keep forgetting that this happened because someone with power (well more power than, say, me - Wilson in this case) was trying to blow the whistle on Bush's phony baloney war machine.

Who says this is not about whistle-blowers???

Danged, this Rove. This whole affair is very effective at covering up (with bullshit in this case) the fact that Wilson said BUSH IS LYING ABOUT THE WAR.

[KingFlorez]

33. It doesn't really matter if he stays or goes

The only thing that needs to happen is for him to be made the poster person for corruption in this administration. If we can stir up enough talk people will finally see how they have been decieved over and over.

[Skittles]

34. I absolutely disagree

there is no f***ing way in hell they "want" us to focus on a story that involves the very reason why we went to war with Iraq - because of a bunch of f***ing LIES. Rove has been hiding for TWO YEARS. I'm not sure what will happen to Rove but you can be DAMN SURE they are unhappy with all the publicity.

[oxbow]

38. Rove is the co-president

any pressure on him keeps the WH from forwarding their policies on SS, Justices etc. Also, Rove wanted to be be spending this time focusing on 2006 elections. Instead, he has to deal with this scandal. I think its a good thing, and that more is coming after the investigator is through