And they said Kerry was "too nuanced"?

[eleny]

In trying to save Rove's ass, they've nuanced and obfuscated the Plame outing to new heights. They've written a new chapter.

My latest image with respectful appreciation to William Carter Sawtelle and Amazing Stories.

[sendero]

1. Don't worry.....

.... this kind of "throw multiple piles of shit at the wall and see what sticks" stuff isn't going to help them much.

Sure, the party faithful will spout these points over and over, but anyone past the 5th grade can see past the "well he did it too" arguments.

I take this relentless mendacious chatter as typical of what Repubs do when they finally get caught with their pants down. IMHO, this happening now, rather than 1.5 years ago when Americans overall still thought the war in Iraq was a good plan, is very good for us and bad for them.

Coming now, it just adds another brick in the wall of lies that Americans are wising up to. And should there be indictments, all the blather they can muster won't do jack shit about it.

[eleny]

2. The midterm elections should be wild

I know that the voting machines are a huge factor. But any debates including Republican incumbents should be interesting.

[GreenPartyVoter]

3. Look at it this way. The GOP still has some solid brainwashed base, but

some swing voters and even formerly solid repubs are bound to be turned off by this mess. If it all comes back up in '06 and the voters recognize the lying going on.. and the repubs win ANYWAY (shades of Max Cleland, anyone?) there will be that many more voices crying out for election reform: http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm

[InternalDialogue]

5. Exactly. I'm counting on all the noncomittal

citizens who couldn't be bothered to figure out the workings of bill introduction and senate procedure in order to understand "I voted for it before I voted against it" in 2004. They're the same people we need to court when it comes to Republican spin on "I never used her name" or "she wasn't covert."

I too expect that there will be a huge shift in moderate voters come next fall. Will those votes show up correctly in the tallies?

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. They won't show up correctly, not in Diebold territory. But like I said

look at the rage we felt when Kerry didn't win despite the feeling on the ground. I think a lot of other voters will experience the shake up over the next few election cycles.

[eleny]

9. Especially if the war goes from worse to "worser"

[eleny]

6. Right you are!

I've figured from the start that the court of public opinion will judge the administration harshly. Who wants to align themselves with a pack of liars and killers?

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. and thieves

[eleny]

10. oh yes! the third character in the unholy trinity!

[gratuitous]

4. Yeah, isn't it rich?

No one in the media on the news or on cable could possibly figure out what John Kerry meant when he said that he voted for additional funding for the Iraq war (when the bill included provisions for Iraq to pay us back) before he voted against the funding (when the bill was simply an outlay from Uncle Sugar).

Hoo boy! What a flip-flopper Kerry was! Nobody could make head nor tail out of the concept that Kerry voted against one form of the appropriation bill that screwed over the taxpayers, but voted for a version that at least nominally included the idea that we'd get paid back out of oil revenues. Far too complicated for the assembled masses of the talking chuckleheads to comprehend, they just sat back and laughed at a candidate who could distinguish between two different versions of an appropriation bill.

Now, there's a different excuse every day about Rove and his loose lips, a different timeline, a different cast of characters, even a different reality where the individuals go from duplicitous masterminds to clueless show dogs, from desk jockeys to running the CIA, all in the same breath. But now the media can keep up with all of it daily, sometimes even hourly, and they never evince the slightest confusion or anything less than dead certainty that what they're saying right this second represents the truest explanation of reality.