will Zell Miller hurt the dems?

[dontstopthere]

I know that Georgia is going to the GOP no matter what, but will a "democrat" campaigning with Bush hurt us too bad?

[lcordero]

1. Nope

Nobody likes a sellout.

[mmonk]

2. somewhat

It would be similar to the things Lieberman says.

[flaminbats]

3. lollol....

Wait, where's the punchline? :silly:

[dontstopthere]

4. i'm serious.

Miller is one of the most popular politicians in my home state of Georgia. I was just wondering if he would swing independents to the GOP.

[flaminbats]

7. He's not more popular than former Gov. Joe Frank Harris or Carl Sanders

And they're both working for candidates in that state. Joe Frank Harris, a conservative Democrat popular among independents and Republicans everywhere in Georgia, is now backing Wes Clark. Carl Sanders is working with his brother in South Carolina to help raise money for Kerry's campaign. And the Labor Commissioner of Georgia, who won with nearly 55% of the vote in 2002, is now supporting Dean.

These people will help us. Zell is being used by the repukes, and will regret what this shall do to his formerly progressive image in the state. He will be remembered not as a Carl Sanders or a George Busbee, but as a Marvin Griffin or Herman Talmadge..bitter and over the hill.

[Piperay]

16. Maybe among some but

my cousin is a Georgia repug and she absolutely despises Miller, doesn't trust him one bit because he used to be a Democrat. :shrug:

[Dagaz]

5. Not much but Ed Koch will

Koch is a pretty respected guy and very NY establishment.

[lancdem]

6. What happened to Ed Koch, anyway?

Supporting Bush??? Hellooooo!

[Dagaz]

9. NY was the city hit at 9/11

Mayor Koch wants terror stopped and is supporting the Patriot Act as well. That's basically his support and he doesn't back the rest of Bush's plans but he just feels strongly that the US must be protected.

[LBJBestEver]

8. If the nominee is Kerry, NY is ours without much effort IMO.

If it's Edwards or Clark, it might take a bit more effort.

[jsw_81]

17. Your picture made me think of what LBJ did in 1972

Johnson was in many ways the Zell Miller of his day, especially right before he died. He endorsed McGovern publicly, but privately he supported Nixon and helped to organize a "Democrats for Nixon" group.

[oasis]

10. Zell will be exposed for the sellout he has become. The quisling SOB

will be discarded as damaged goods by mid-summer.

[IndianaGreen]

11. The problem is that Zell has superdelegate credentials to the convention

this means that as the media is covering the convention, Zell will be there on TV babbling about Democrats for Bush.

[flaminbats]

12. This is unfair to those who would willingly represent their primary voters

I believe that this is probably the most undemocratic aspect of the Democratic Party..now Zell and his corporate friends are merely finding a way to exploit this! If a political leader wishes to be a delegate, then he or she should only have the same voting strength of any other elected delegate. The best way to solve this problem is to allow for more delegates, and replace the super-delegate positions with those new slots.

There is no moral or logical justification for giving a super-delegate the "RIGHT" to represent a caucus, even though he doesn't have to be elected..and can freely break faith with his or her voters without consequences.

Isn't it time to end the days of manipulative party bosses and smoke-filled rooms? :smoke:

[minkyboodle]

14. great points

couldn't agree more.
Scott

[minkyboodle]

13. To Quote George Costanza

"It doesn't help..."
actually I don't imagine this will do much damage except in the south but it gives the repukes plenty of "look how your party has gone crazy" ammo. I wouldn't lose much sleep over it though
Scott

[oasis]

15. Rep.Denise Majette 4th dist. Ga. is a Democrat that may take a hit

since Zell was a big part of her coming out party to unseat Cynthia McKinney.