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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:15 AM
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3 Days of the Condor: "How do you know they'll print it?"
the following scene from the great movie "Three Days of the Condor" (1975) was amazingly prescient when you think about the invasion of Iraq, the DSM, Plamegate, the fraudulent Niger memo, and good old Judy Miller at the NY Times ...

and then there's this classic quote from former CIA Director, William Colby: ""The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

the question is, is there really any source of truth left in the MSM ??

the scene below occurs near the very end of the movie when Robert Redford's character, Turner, has blown the whistle on plans to illegally invade the Middle East ... he sent a copy of his story to the NY Times ... btw, unlike the outing of Plame, this was a legitimate whistleblower scenario ...

source: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Three_Days_of_the_Condor


Turner: Do we have plans to invade the Middle East?
Higgins: Are you crazy?
Turner: Am I?
Higgins: Look, Turner…
Turner: Do we have plans?
Higgins: No. Absolutely not. We have games. That's all. We play games. What if? How many men? What would it take? Is there a cheaper way to destabilize a regime? That's what we're paid to do.
. . .
Higgins: Fact is, there was nothing wrong with the plan. Oh, the plan was alright, the plan would've worked.
Turner: Boy, what is it with you people? You think not getting caught in a lie is the same thing as telling the truth?
Higgins: No. It's simple economics. Today it's oil, right? In ten or fifteen years, food. Plutonium. And maybe even sooner. Now, what do you think the people are gonna want us to do then?
Turner: Ask them.
Higgins: Not now — then! Ask 'em when they're running out. Ask 'em when there's no heat in their homes and they're cold. Ask 'em when their engines stop. Ask 'em when people who have never known hunger start going hungry. You wanna know something? They won't want us to ask 'em. They'll just want us to get it for 'em!
Turner: Boy, have you found a home.
. . .

Turner: I told 'em a story. You play games; I told 'em a story.
Higgins: Oh, you… you poor, dumb son of a bitch. You've done more damage than you know.
Turner: I hope so.
. . .
Higgins: Hey Turner! How do you know they'll print it? You can take a walk… but how far if they don't print it?
Turner: They'll print it.
Higgins: How do you know?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:18 AM
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1. I just watched that a few months ago
My brother and I were like: :wtf:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:28 AM
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2. The problem is they were standing in front of the NY times
Judith Miller, and the stories that keep coming out from the Grand Jury by an Anynomous source are being printed by the NY Times...

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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:31 AM
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3. That was a very prescient movie.
I think it is MORE relevant now.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:35 AM
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4. The thing is, we knew they WOULD print it THEN. But NOW, not a chance.
:cry:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:53 AM
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5. Newscasters are starting to look like Muppets delivering the Nuzak
Even Gwen Ifill and cast on Washington Week-- empty heads yapping their lines.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 07:38 AM
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6. This sums up the world according to Bush:
"You think not getting caught in a lie is the same thing as telling the truth?"
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