Roon
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Sun Jul-17-05 11:27 AM
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Rove was fired twice by daddy Bush |
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Sun Jul-17-05 11:35 AM
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1. That's interesting! I knew about one, but not two! |
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What's wrong with this Family? Is it normal to rehire someone after you fired them? Especially for the reason provided.
I can see W hiring him, because he seems committed to doing everything the exact opposit of Poppy, and I bet, at least behind closed doors, Poppy is saying "I TOLD YOU!"
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Sun Jul-17-05 11:40 AM
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2. I was thinking the same thing |
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Bush is in total catch 22. If he keeps Rove, he is a lot of baggage...but then again, he can't function without him. All the while daddy Bush is saying, "I told you so!"
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Sun Jul-17-05 02:01 PM
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Sun Jul-17-05 11:58 AM
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3. Several of Poppy's advisers have labeled as the "crazies" |
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the alumni from the first Bush Administration on whom W is relying . I would love to hear what the old Bush hands have to say privately about this group of incompetent fools who are bankrupting America, both morally and financially.
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Sun Jul-17-05 02:44 PM
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15. Daddy Bush actually took Powell's opinion seriously |
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Unlike junior who didn't give two shits about what Powell had to say. Poppy had Cheney as Secretary of Defense and Powell as chairman of the join chiefs. He did listen to Cheney a little too much, but most of the level heads in the first Bush administration laughed at Wolfowitz when he proposed removing Saddam from power. And as the article states, he fired Rove's ass.
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Sun Jul-17-05 12:03 PM
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4. I can't find that in the article. |
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It mentions the 1992 firing, which I knew about, but I don't see a reference to another firing.
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Sun Jul-17-05 12:21 PM
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6. I must be missing something too |
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Sun Jul-17-05 12:24 PM
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After dropping out of the University of Utah, Karl Rove began his political career with the College Republicans, which he chaired from 1973 to 1974. For the next few years, he worked in various Republican Party circles and assisted George H. W. Bush's 1980 vice-presidential campaign. He was fired from the campaign however, for leaking information to the journalistRobert Novak.
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Sun Jul-17-05 12:55 PM
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8. I don't see that in the article I am reading |
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I see this -
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Rove dropped out of the University of Utah in 1971 to become the Executive Director of the College Republican National Committee and held this position until 1972 when he became their National Chairman (1973-1974). As Chairman, Rove had access to many powerful politicians and government officials of the Republican party, and formed ties with George H. W. Bush, then Chairman of the Republican National Committee (1973-1974).
Work for Bush family For the next few years, Rove worked in various Republican circles and assisted George H. W. Bush's 1980 vice-presidential campaign. Rove introduced Bush to Lee Atwater. A signature tactic of Rove was to attack an opponent on the opponent's strongest issue.
In 1981, Rove founded direct mail consulting firm, Karl Rove & Co., based out of Austin, Texas. This firm's first clients included Republican Governor Bill Clements and Democratic Congressman Phil Gramm, who later became a Republican Congressman and United States Senator. In 1993, Rove began advising George W. Bush's gubernatorial campaign. He continued, however, to operate his consulting business until 1999, when he sold the firm to focus his efforts on Bush's bid for the presidency.
In 1986, just before a crucial debate in the election for governor of Texas, Karl Rove announced that his office had been bugged by the Democrats. It was later claimed that Rove had bugged his own phone to garner media coverage. <3>
In 1992, Rove was fired from George H. W. Bush's 1992 presidential re-election campaign for allegedly leaking information to journalist Robert Novak. <snip>
Where does it say that he was fired from GHWB's vice-presidential campaign?
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Sun Jul-17-05 02:22 PM
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10. same here, I can't find it either, I give up |
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Sun Jul-17-05 02:28 PM
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For the next few years, Rove worked in various Republican circles and assisted George H. W. Bush's 1980 vice-presidential campaign. He was subsequently fired from the campaign for leaking information to journalist Robert Novak. Rove introduced Bush to Lee Atwater. A signature tactic of Rove was to attack an opponent on the opponent's strongest issue.
Your snip is missing the key portion.
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Sun Jul-17-05 02:33 PM
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12. This is very strange. I believe it is the same para but what I see is this |
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Work for Bush family
For the next few years, Rove worked in various Republican circles and assisted George H. W. Bush's 1980 vice-presidential campaign. Rove introduced Bush to Lee Atwater. A signature tactic of Rove was to attack an opponent on the opponent's strongest issue.
I even refreshed the site. Is it a browser thing?
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Sun Jul-17-05 02:44 PM
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Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 02:44 PM by No Surrender
Karl Christian Rove (born December 25, 1950 in Denver, Colorado) is an American political consultant, and (as of 2005) U.S. President George W. Bush's senior advisor and chief political strategist. On February 8, 2005, Rove was appointed deputy chief of staff in charge of policy.
After dropping out of the University of Utah, Karl Rove began his political career with the College Republicans, which he chaired from 1973 to 1974. For the next few years, he worked in various Republican Party circles and assisted George H. W. Bush's 1980 vice-presidential campaign. He was fired from the campaign however, for leaking information to the journalist Robert Novak.
on edit: fixed spacing
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rumpel
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Sun Jul-17-05 02:39 PM
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13. It is a browser issue! How can this be? Safari and Firefox does not show |
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that sentence. But Internet Explorer does!
What the heck is going on?
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Work for Bush family
For the next few years, Rove worked in various Republican circles and assisted George H. W. Bush's 1980 vice-presidential campaign. He was subsequently fired from the campaign for leaking information to journalist Robert Novak. Rove introduced Bush to Lee Atwater. A signature tactic of Rove was to attack an opponent on the opponent's strongest issue.
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Sun Jul-17-05 02:45 PM
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16. I'm using Safari and I see it. eom |
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Sun Jul-17-05 02:46 PM
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17. What is wrong then with my puter? |
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Sun Jul-17-05 02:49 PM
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18. I suspect you're looking in the wrong place. |
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It's not under "works for bush family." Start from the top and keep reading. It's before "early life and political experience." Hope you see it. :hi:
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Sun Jul-17-05 03:00 PM
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21. When I go to the page |
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I get a date stamp (at the bottom) of 06:43, July 17th (GMT, I'm guessing) . However, when I look at the history, I see 13 revisions since then. I can click on a particular revision, and the the 'fired from vice-presidential campaign' bit, which was introduced today.
So maybe wikipedia has several servers, which cache versions of apage. Unless you go to the history page, perhaps you can get a version a few hours old.
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Sun Jul-17-05 03:08 PM
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22. Sounds like a good explanation to me. |
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I wasn't aware of the "history" function, so thanks for pointing that out. :-)
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Sun Jul-17-05 02:51 PM
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19. They could be editing it right now |
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Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 02:52 PM by wtmusic
and some people are getting a cached version of the page. Try doing a page reload. At first I got the version without the news of the "firing". After a page reload, I got the whole thing.
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Sun Jul-17-05 02:58 PM
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20. You are right, now it's there on Safari and Firefox. But I did hit refresh |
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originally. Is it possible that editing was done, while we were loading the pages?
Anyway, thanks issue resolved.
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Sun Jul-17-05 03:19 PM
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24. 'm using Firefox, and see it fine |
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Sun Jul-17-05 03:13 PM
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23. This guy is poor evil. |
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His birth is like the story of Damien...and it just gets worse from there.
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Sun Jul-17-05 03:28 PM
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25. He attacks an opponents strengths, |
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because he has a master's degree in foul slander. He uses that strategy because lies are what he does well. He does not "attack" he lies and smears.
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