McClellan on outsourcing to India: "Learn 21st century job skills"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

During the press conference, McClellan was asked...since Bush is meeting with the Indian PM...if the hemorrhaging of jobs to India would be discussed.

McClellan said that Bush's tax cuts were proof that he is involved in the creation of jobs, that 3.7 million jobs have been created, and that the next step is for workers to "learn the skills to do the jobs of the 21st century."

:silly:

[fudge stripe cookays]

1. What?

Like "Attention Wal-Mart employees, price check at register 3?"

Fuck you, Scotty.
FSC

[DBoon]

3. or "Would you like fries with that?"

nt

[OneTwentyoNine]

21. Or.We offer air fresheners with a full service wash,which do you want?

Hoover Administration ALL over again.....

[stray cat]

2. While working two minimum wage jobs to support a family

and without any health care for medical expenses.

[wtmusic]

4. like a challenging career as a Wal-Mart greeter

:crazy:

[bahrbearian]

5. I did have a nice IT job till chimpy was selected.

[welshTerrier2]

12. me too ...

now i'm a full-time DU'er ... not bad, eh ??

[skids]

6. Well...

...it is true that Toyota opted for Canada because training costs here would have been too high. We do have an educational problem here.

But at the same time, many of the lost jobs were 21st century jobs and many of the unemployed are highly skilled.

[dflprincess]

14. I would bet health care costs were another reason they went to Canada

GM says health care add $1,500 to price of every vehicle they make and the average cost of healthcare per worker is around $6,000. In Canada it's about $800 (or maybe around $600 - I can't remember for sure.)

[Village Idiot]

22. There were a lot of other reasons...

foremost of which is that Canadian Autoparts Toyota Inc., which is to supply the new Assembly facility in Woodstock, ON, is only 30 minutes away in Cambridge, ON...

[clydefrand]

7. McClellan has gone completely bonkers! He looks like he's

been through the wringer! Which is gooooooooooooooooooooood...he shouldn't be lying for the rest of the assholes with his memorized remarks that don't really fit a damn question that is asked.

[murielm99]

8. What kind of 21st century job skills do YOU have, Snottie?

Are you going back to community college to be retrained when * gets thrown out on his rear?

Or maybe there will be a job opening for an experienced liar?

[welshTerrier2]

9. you want "freedom fries" with that ?? n/t

[Turbineguy]

10. Like Lying through your teeth?

Scott McClellan is scum and he knows it.

Go Fuck yourself Scotty. Do it today!

[gratuitous]

11. 3.7 million jobs created? Here or in India, Snottie?

And how does that job creation number compare to the number of new employable folks entering the job market in the last five years? Oh yeah, it's a bit smaller, innit?

Lying weasel scam artist. How's Karl today, Snottie? Still have his security clearance even though he clearly can't be trusted with it?

[JDPriestly]

25. And how much lower is the pay on the 3.7 million created

compared to the millions and millions of jobs lost? I have every skill in the book and am quite willing to learn more, but no one wants to hire me in this job market because I am over 60. I just keep sending my resume. Sooner or later we will get rid of Bush, and the job market will open up again as it did under Clinton in the '90s. Bush does not invest in technology or jobs. Plus, he is such a whiner and complainer that even the businesses that send him money don't feel good about the future of the economy. Bush is a loser on every front. He and his team are totally incompetent in managing the economy, foreign relations, even intelligence. They have not improved the situation in our country in any respect. They need to go.

[OneTwentyoNine]

13. 3.7 MILLION jobs created?--BULLSHIT

Another 1200 jobs went out the door a month or so ago when Boeing Wichita decided to shit can employees that had been with the company for 15-30 YEARS so their sale of the plant to Onyx would go through. These were long time employees that were making 50-75K per year.A few got rehired by Onyx but the majority are still out. These people had the skills to build A FUCKING AIRLINER Scottie,what SKILLS are you talking about?!?!?!??!

[TrogL]

42. That's so nineteenth century

This is the "ownership economy". Nobody can own an airliner (with a few notable exceptions). People need to be working to building something one person can own - like a Big Mac (until it's eaten).

[H5N1]

15. bush's tax cuts PROVE he is involved in creating jobs?!?

this shit too funny for words

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

19. Yeah, the tax cuts stimulated the economy and created 3.7 million jobs

...right, Scottie? Those ARE the talking points, aren't they?

When he pulled out the "economy is STRONG and getting STRONGER" line, I knew it was all downhill from there.

:grr:

[bunny planet]

16. I hear HP is about to lay off between 10K and 25K American workers

guess that's because they don't have 21st Century job skills.

Seriously Snottie, what skills do you have? You're not even a good liar.

[htuttle]

17. WHAT SKILLS ARE THOSE? HUH? WHAT SKILLS ARE '21ST CENTURY' JOB SKILLS?

They told us this crap back in the 80's, and a lot of former manufacturing workers went back to school. Most of them have probably been laid off by now.

WHAT SKILLS are they talking about? It's not IT. It's not engineering. What are they? They keep talking about 'learning new skills' for today's job market, but I can't think of a single one (other than low-wage service jobs) that is hiring enough or has prospects good enough to get retrained for. They never tell us 'what skills' they are talking about, either.

WHAT SKILLS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SCOTTY? LYING? Is that the '21st Century job skill' he's referring to? 'Lying' is apparently a booming industry nowdays.

[JDPriestly]

27. I know! -Working 24 hours a day without a break for $1 per hour.

[H5N1]

32. Why selling on eBay, of course!

You can sell ten comic books EVERY DAY - get a buck for
every one. You can buy coffee makers for
twenty dollars and sell them for.... twenty dollars.
Things like that there.

My friend, it's the new American opportunity just waiting to welcome
us backwater hicks.

[geckosfeet]

18. Yeah,, its them lazy no good workers fault.

[Village Idiot]

20. They must have cut his mike in mid sentence:

I am sure he said:

the next step is for workers to "learn the skills to do the jobs of the 21st century for wages of the 19th century."

There is NO SKILL SHORTAGE. It is nothing but 100% BULLSHIT and EMPTY HYPE.

The REAL message is "why pay a US programmer $40,000 / year for a job we can get some East Indian to do for $8000 to $12,000 / year?"

[JDPriestly]

30. Precisely.

And where does our money go? To buy weapons and support military advisors. That's where. India and China do not spend nearly what we spend on the military. That is why their people can work for so much less than we can. They don't have to support our huge military establishment and their toys.

Military expenditures are destroying this country. With so much of =the tax money coming from income taxes, Americans have to have high paying jobs and pay high taxes to keep the defense spending up. Other countries spend their tax revenue on education and health care. We spend it on jet fighters and submarines, etc. And, since our foreign policy is such a wreck with Bush, we will be in bad shape if we don't keep up our military might. We need a complete overhaul of our values and our ways of coping or we will all be jobless and defenseless to boot.

[Contrary1]

23. Scottie should be taking that "next step" any day now...

Maybe he can gather all those important signatures he has collected over
the years, and sell them on Ebay.

According to Cheney "That's a source that didn't even exist 10 years ago.
Four hundred thousand people make some money trading on eBay."

400,001 counting Scottie.

And, as we all know, the Dick wouldn't lie.

[Maple]

24. DUers certainly have an odd idea

about 21st century job skills!

[Solon]

38. Please give us one example of what 21st century job skills...

current workers standing in unemployment lines do not have.

[Janice325]

26. You gotta be fucking kidding me!

What an asshole.

[Gold Metal Flake]

28. I hope Scotty can learn the skills for less painful prison love.

Just so he's prepared.

[nickinSTL]

29. Right, @$$hole...

like my fiancee, a COMPUTER PROGRAMMER, who's been out of work for 4 years...needs to LEARN a 21st century job skill.

You b@$^@%#$ sent all those jobs to India.

[OneTwentyoNine]

31. Yeah,and get paid 1932 wages, right Scottie???

[JDPriestly]

33. Outsourcing is the power issue right now.

Unfortunately, a lot of top Democrats including Clinton favor unfettered world trade. That may be fine for those who have so much cash to invest in multi-national corporations that they can live off the cash flow from their investments. But for the rest of us it's a road to hopeless poverty.

This issue crosses the lines between the parties. Both Democrats and Republicans have lost their jobs and are sinking into economic hopelessness due to the free trade mania that has infected both parties over the last 30 years. If a strong third party could be built, it would be on this issue. This is a uniter.

We should focus on jobs for Americans and restraints on free trade for 2006 and 2008. We need to find candidates who are willing to stand up tall for American working people and the American middle class on this issue. Tax reform in favor of the working and middle class is the key to bringing jobs back to America. Imports should be taxed to provide funds for economic development, health care and education here at home. We need to revoke any trade agreement that prevents us from taxing imports to support our national needs. Let's level the playing field for American and overseas employers.

[HughBeaumont]

34. Wow, just like THAT, huh Slottie?

OK, so I guess that:

* assumes Indians, Chinese and others won't be gettin' those same skills,

* assumes Chinese and Indian wages are going to rise, making our physical presence a sudden attribute

* assumes that we even KNOW what those 'jobs of the 21st century' (the phrase itself an RNC talking point - one only needs to look at Lancelot Link's form letter on my stepson's Presidential academic award for that) ARE, and

* assumes that these 'jobs of the 21st century' AREN'T going to follow their predecessors to cheaper shores

* assumes corporations WON'T be giving the above mentioned countries access to develop apps with their latest technologies

* assumes we're going to be willing to give up our lives, ONCE AGAIN, to play an endless game of employee musical chairs while the robber barons sit in a room, smoking Cohibas and laughing their ever-hating asses off at their carrot-dangling.

Sell your horseshit to the people who'll eat it. The rest of us would rather see you in the orange jumpsuit with Pigshit and Presidope Link.

[area51]

41. Great post, H.B.

Guess what, Snottie McClellan, we already have 21st century job skills, but you mofoing nazis keep shipping the jobs away, and bringing in H1-Bs & L-1s to take our jobs! Asshole! Like others posting above, I used to have a tech job before G.W. Hoover stole the White House.

[dweller]

35. okay, i'm signing up now

Lying 101
Intro to Repuglican Spin
Corporate Welfare for the 21st Century
Offshore Banking and Your Tax Breaks

....just my first summer semester!

dp

[sakabatou]

36. He's created 3.7 million jobs... somewhere else.

[LongTomH]

37. India looking at nanotech as "Next Big Thing" in outsourcing

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/2176.asp">India and China work towards dominance in Nanotechnology – it is the next outsourcing wave

Nanotechnology is the next wave of technology boom. India and China silently is getting ready for the same. And so is America, Europe and Japan, The ASEAN countries are looking towards the West for the technology.

India and China want to be the epicenter for this new technological revolution. It will be larger than the IT, Medical and Internet boom.

If applied and implemented efficiently, Nanotechnology can make India and China get back their glory of the ancient time – prosperity in true sense.

Is anyone really surprised at this - except Scotty, I mean!

[HughBeaumont]

40. They're already ahead of us . . .

thanks to their low COL. Science/IT college enrollment is dropping and being discouraged, because who wants to get into a field that you'll be priced out of before even starting? American workers are getting the shit end of the stick in SO many ways -

* our current wages are not and never will be keeping up with our ever-rising cost of living

* MNCs, while setting up shop in India and China, are already building the waves of the future while pricing American workers out of the market entirely before they even get started

* By their wholesale greed-based stupidity, MNCs are not only drying up the talent pool here (thereby making America LESS competitive), they're discouraging innovation needed to make new businesses and also shooting themselves in the foot by creating their own overseas competitors.

Offshoring is a faith-based, over-assumptive CRAPSHOOT. NO one will EVER convince me that this bullshit practice helps ANYone but the wealthy. Repukes, free-market Libertarians and even some goddamned DEMOCRATS (like, for instance, Robert Reich, Hillary Clinton, Thom Freidman (although one could hardly call him one) and even Jim McDermott) disgust me to NO end with this "rising tide lifts all boats" garbage.

[sadiesworld]

43. Jim McDermott a neo-lib?

What did I miss?

[HughBeaumont]

44. Yes, I'm afraid so . . .

It's kind of like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth on this one . . . on one hand, he rails against the Bush Admin for it, but at the same time, he couldn't answer to laid-off workers why he was on the India Caucus, with one of their objectives proposing "no limits on offshore outsourcing to India" (that's not him, BTW, that's Jay Inslee, also a Democrat apparently . . .).

http://www.rescueamericanjobs.org/stories/index.php?workers=outsourced-american-worker-meets-rep-inslee

http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/sp040309.shtml

[sadiesworld]

45. That scares the hell out of me.

I thought he was one of the best.

We are sooooo f**ked. :evilfrown:

[HughBeaumont]

46. People thought Jay Inslee was a good one too . . .

I don't get it. Destroy one middle class and their careers for the purpose of improving another, but all the while not progressing either one. Seems kind of an arch-Republican value to me . . .

[PurityOfEssence]

39. The essential 21st Century job skill: working for a buck an hour

What's the matter with you peons? There are 168 hours in every week.