JuniperLea
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Mon Jul-18-05 02:54 PM
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how many people did saddam hussein kill; how long ago; AND |
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how many people has W killed?
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Kraklen
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Mon Jul-18-05 02:55 PM
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1. The trial of Saddam is so phony. |
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You can't morally justify trying Saddam without trying the likes of Rumfeld and Bush.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:24 PM
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...there are plenty of acts that Saddam is likely guilty of that have little to do with the US.
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Kraklen
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:26 PM
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9. There's nothing Saddam did that doesn't have to do with the U.S. |
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Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 04:27 PM by Kraklen
Maybe he drove drunk in college or something, but he was the puppet dictator of the U.S. and everything that happened under his regime is our responsibility.
To deny otherwise is just playing politics with Saddam, and is an insult to the people he helped kill.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:32 PM
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11. I love statements of absolutism.... |
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Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 04:38 PM by rinsd
"Maybe he drove drunk in college or something, but he was the puppet dictator of the U.S. and everything that happened under his regime is our responsibility"
First off, you can't morally justify not charging him. Whether others are also ultmiately held reponsible is not an issue of moral justification if all the murderers go free.
On edit: took out stupid line. replaced with above.
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Kraklen
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:51 PM
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14. And as long as Bush and Rumsfeld aren't on trial... |
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the trial of Saddam Hussein is meaningless.
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geek tragedy
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Mon Jul-18-05 05:00 PM
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15. Tell that to the Kurds and Shiites whose family members he murdered. eom |
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Mon Jul-18-05 05:03 PM
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16. You tell it to the Kurds and Shiites whose family members |
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Reagan, Rumsfeld, and Bush murdered, and continue to murder.
Frankly, I think your sympathy to the actual victims is anything but.
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geek tragedy
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Mon Jul-18-05 05:16 PM
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17. Well, your personal opinion of me couldn't be less relevant. |
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Again, just because Saddam's trial is irrelevant to YOU doesn't mean it's irrelevant to others.
I'm out of this little dialogue, so you don't need to conjure another witless, dissembling non sequitur.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:26 PM
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10. Yeah,little to do with the US so Bush invades Iraq..... |
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Its like looking for your lost quarter at night on the opposite street corner because that corner has a street light.
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geek tragedy
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Mon Jul-18-05 03:01 PM
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2. Tens of thousands, at the very least. |
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I recommend you read the research conducted by the most credibile and legitimate human rights organizations, such as PHRUSA, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch.
I would not trust the crap put forth by his dissembling apologists, who typically rely on Republican talking points from the Reagan and Poppy Bush administrations.
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Village Idiot
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Mon Jul-18-05 03:32 PM
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3. More - HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS, actually. |
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Lots of WARS, remember - there was the Ba'ath coup in 1968, to start off with, the wars with Iran, the Kurdish rebellions, the attack on Kuwait and subsequent GWI, and those killed in the fluid phase of GWII, before he went into hiding...
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geek tragedy
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Mon Jul-18-05 03:33 PM
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4. As I said, "at the very least." I was being conservative. |
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His hands are as bloody as anyone's, that's for sure.
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Mon Jul-18-05 03:45 PM
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5. Do you have any links to the "credible" data? |
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Do you think all the Iraqis the US killed died happily?
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geek tragedy
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Mon Jul-18-05 03:53 PM
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6. Google is your friend. And, for the 1000th and last time for the people |
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in the peanut gallery:
CONDEMNATION OF SADDAM IS NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM THE SAME AS EXCUSING US WAR CRIMES OR THE IRAQ INVASION. CONDEMNING ONE BUT NOT THE OTHER IS RANK HYPOCRICY.
Why nominally intelligent people can't grasp that simple fact is beyond me.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:25 PM
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8. Do you think that Iraqis died happily under Saddam? |
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Seriously, when did DU thinking become so black and white.
Because Saddam is bad does not make Bush good , nor does the reverse.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:35 PM
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12. Exactly. We should be smarter than Freepers and rightwing |
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:38 PM
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13. Some say sanctions killed half a million. |
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