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Mon Jul-18-05 04:18 PM
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Whoa - Wolf Blitzer show pointing fingers at Cheney in Treasongate! |
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They dared to point the finger at Cheney - the first time I've seen that on TV!
They're starting to feel a little more free to talk about what might be going on.
Lanny Davis is kinda dissing Dems over this. I don't agree with him. It almost sounds like the pols are circling the wagons to say nothing should be done.
Hatch is an idiot.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:21 PM
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:24 PM
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2. Can you give us some context, please? |
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Did he say something in particular?
Thanks.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:25 PM
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4. They started by talking about Scooter Libby's involvement... |
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...but when they started talking about him, they started implying that if Scooter was involved, so was Cheney. Then they talked about how the two men work together, than they have the same political views, etc.
They point fingers at Rove, but they don't say it's Bush.
That's what surprised me. When they started talking about Libby, they seemed to imply that it automatically implicated Cheney.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:33 PM
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7. Thanks. Personally, I think they're ALL joined at the hip. eom |
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Mon Jul-18-05 05:12 PM
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Last week, they weren't willing to point at Cheney. A few weeks ago, they were pretty timid even about Rove. Floods can start as trickles.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:25 PM
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3. I've had the television on all day to CNN. They have discussed |
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these issues ALL day about Libby and Rove and Cooper. And the pResident's firing someone if they have committed a crime.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:29 PM
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5. That will be the day, this administration is not in the habit of |
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throwing any that agrees with their mindset under the bus, and for the most part Mr. Cheney is the administration's mind set.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:32 PM
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6. Committed a crime is a key issue: |
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I think that they look at Plame's residency in the US in 1997 and say, well, she hasn't been overseas in more than five years. I think they take that to mean, too bad, outing her was not a crime because of the statute of limitations.
Unfortunately for them, I think Fitzpatrick is smart enough to dot the i's and cross the t's on this; she must have been overseas more recently, even if she was not in residence.
Secondly, my usual refrain. Everyone, together: Perjury. Obstruction of Justice.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:40 PM
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9. The context should be, not that Plame wasn't out of country |
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But that the leak blew a LONG TIME CIA covert operation! To the best of my knowledge, the front company she worked for was an ongoing operation.
It's not just about Wilson and Plame anymore.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:46 PM
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11. Good point. I hope that comes out in some kind of trial... |
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because it's a rarely-made point in the MSM.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:41 PM
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10. One more charge too. Conspiracy!!! |
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If Fitz can link all these guys together, we've also got conspiracy charges coupled with Perjury and Obstruction!
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Mon Jul-18-05 06:45 PM
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21. not enough, try RICO vs. AEI, JINSA, and the GOP |
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Mon Jul-18-05 05:13 PM
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13. ALL DAY on CNN? I thought that stage was weeks away. Wow. |
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Mon Jul-18-05 05:47 PM
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17. CNN had improved in the past couple of weeks, IMO |
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Since their revamping. I can actually listen to American Morning again while I'm getting ready for work and even Reliable Sources didn't totally suck this past Sunday. Not, totally.
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Mon Jul-18-05 04:36 PM
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Wowie.
I know some DU'ers feel like this is dragging along but I am frankly stunned at how fast things are coming out now that Time, Inc. broke the dam.
:popcorn:
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Mon Jul-18-05 05:15 PM
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14. How did the *Democrats* become the ones at fault? |
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Mon Jul-18-05 05:32 PM
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15. Cheney's office probably felt responsible for Wilson (since it had |
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requested the trip_ and was probably intimately involved the leaking which as orchestrated by Rove during a meeting of the White House Iraq Group.
With 9 calls and 3 confirmations minimum, one can be sure Rove mastermined the situation to make sure leaks were effective (not overlapping, off-the-cuff, etc.) and planned to have a number of administration officials to confirm the stroy. With a probable minimum of 4 officials involved, one can be sure Rove was conspiring to have the leak discredit Wilson.
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Mon Jul-18-05 05:40 PM
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This is about DSM. The Bush Regime is sending out as many of their RW troops as they can muster to mount a grand Offensive. So far, no RWingers have brocken ranks on this issue. They are either silent,attacking or defending. The RW knows that this can topple the Bush Regime and lose many seats in Congress.
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Mon Jul-18-05 05:52 PM
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18. But Faux News is distancing on Fri and this morning. |
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Have you noticed? It's very odd, but perhaps telling as an initial sign.
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Mon Jul-18-05 06:00 PM
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19. Lannie Davis loves Lannie Davis and Lannie Davis on TV. |
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Mon Jul-18-05 06:25 PM
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20. Wolf has been making a subtle shift the past several days |
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from Bush apologist to skeptic. If they've lost their top CNN-whore, BushCo is toast! :bounce: :bounce:
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