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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:00 PM
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Is it a COVER-UP yet? If not, why not?
Keep in mind I remember Watergate.

Language matters; the RW hacks know this. It's time we wised up too.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:02 PM
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1. "WHAT did the pResident know, and WHEN did he KNOW it?"
I hear that EVERY time the topics is raised!!!

1 9 7 4

Mean anything to you, Dubya???
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:31 PM
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5. Your response in another post is what inspired this! nt
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:06 PM
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2. it actually IS a COVER UP..
...keep framing it that way. Repeat it. Cover Up. Not only is it the truth, the public KNOWS it. Most people do not believe that the Bush Administration is fully cooperating with this investigation.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:32 PM
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6. And the phrase must be used. It'll strike a chord with people my
age, and the younger ones will take their cues from that.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:03 PM
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13. it's a National Security Breach cover up
in my book. That's how I'm referring to it.

Forget plame, and rove, and all the mini gates...blowing the cover of an agent and a front company is a national security breach.

Treason.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:08 PM
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3. Actually the smear campaign to discredit Wilson is part of the coverup of
the Administration's conspiracy to lie the US into a war. They "fixed" the intel to conform to their policy.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:16 PM
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4. sounds like conspiracy to me
Can any of these talking heads who are out sprewing
false and misleading republican talking points be prosecuted???
Conspiracy? Perjury? Obstruction of Justice? Abuse of Power?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:39 PM
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8. I regard it as an ongoing criminal conspiracy. Don't know if RICO statutes
apply, but it would be interesting to find out.

Ah, but I'll bet those same talking heads will hide behind that "freedom of speech" thing. But it was I think Ari et al who reminded us we must be "careful" of what we say, and in the case of accomplices to an organized criminal conspiracy to subvert national security well...I'm sure AG Gonzales could make such a case if he wanted to. He does find ways of rendering constitutional guarantees, etc "inoperative" when he really puts his mind to it. ;)
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:54 PM
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12. the thing about freedom of speech
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 09:16 PM by C_U_L8R
freedom of speech is not freedom to lie
freedom of speech is not freedom to leak
freedom of speech is not freedom to smear
freedom of speech is not freedom to decieve
freedom of speech is not freedom to obstruct
freedom of speech is not freedom to blow an agent's cover
freedom of speech is not freedom to disregard the law of the land
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:08 PM
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14. There are indeed legal limits to speech, but with regards to truth in
broadcasting and news here's a case involving a Florida Fox TV station:

In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.

Back in December of 1996, Jane Akre and her husband, Steve Wilson, were hired by FOX as a part of the Fox “Investigators” team at WTVT in Tampa Bay, Florida. In 1997 the team began work on a story about bovine growth hormone (BGH), a controversial substance manufactured by Monsanto Corporation. The couple produced a four-part series revealing that there were many health risks related to BGH and that Florida supermarket chains did little to avoid selling milk from cows treated with the hormone, despite assuring customers otherwise.

According to Akre and Wilson, the station was initially very excited about the series. But within a week, Fox executives and their attorneys wanted the reporters to use statements from Monsanto representatives that the reporters knew were false and to make other revisions to the story that were in direct conflict with the facts. Fox editors then tried to force Akre and Wilson to continue to produce the distorted story. When they refused and threatened to report Fox's actions to the FCC, they were both fired.(Project Censored #12 1997)...

...FOX appealed the case, and on February 14, 2003 the Florida Second District Court of Appeals unanimously overturned the settlement awarded to Akre. The Court held that Akre’s threat to report the station’s actions to the FCC did not deserve protection under Florida’s whistle blower statute, because Florida’s whistle blower law states that an employer must violate an adopted “law, rule, or regulation." In a stunningly narrow interpretation of FCC rules, the Florida Appeals court claimed that the FCC policy against falsification of the news does not rise to the level of a "law, rule, or regulation," it was simply a "policy." Therefore, it is up to the station whether or not it wants to report honestly.

Full article here: http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2005/11.html

Staggering, ain't it?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:36 PM
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7. All of this is a coverup of the lie that sent this nation to war
Not just Rove, it all ties in to Bush lying in the State of the Union, the DSM, 9-11 and all the other coverups which will lead to impeachment.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:41 PM
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9. When is SOMEONE going to ask the son of a bitch directly ...
if he knew that Rove was leaking to smear Wilson? They act like this filthy rat-bastard Bush shouldn't be directly challenged.

Let me in a press conference. I'll ask the rotten asshole.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:47 PM
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10. Exactly. If there's nothing to hide, well, let's quote George, shall we?
"Bring 'em on."

Let's throw the poo on him, some will stick, I guarantee it.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:50 PM
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11. This was a PRE-EMPTIVE COVERUP!!!
And that is how Fitzgerald will get ALL of his convictions, including convictions. Not just the 1917 Espionage law, but also the 1982 law, obstruction, perjury, conspiracy and potentially treason.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:00 PM
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15. It's been a cover-up smear campaign since Wilson returned from Niger
Bush /Rove had no choice but to discredit Wilson - it interfered with there logic for going to war.
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