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ltfranklin Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:01 PM
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"And for the Democrats, our guest INRAD BIPOOT!
It's getting a bit obvious. The guest on the talking heads show that's supposed to be talking for the Democrats...but wait! Sure doesn't SOUND like a Democrat!

I've given these guys/gals a name...Inrad Bipoot.

"I'm not really a Democrat...but I Play one on TV". BIPOOT for short.

Here's a big example. Jack Valenti. Always plays the Democrat side on the talking head shows, supposedly to "balance" the show, but I've yet to see him stray from the Republican talking points. Democrats always wrong, Republicans always right. If you need a Democrat, but don't really want to hear anything the Democrats have to say, call in old Jack. BIPOOT!

Take a look here for a nice overview:

http://mediamatters.org/items/leftsidefront/200507180008

Zell Miller's another one, graduated from being a DINO to becoming a BIPOOT.

Could we possibly make up a list of these BIPOOT's, and send it on to the Democratic Party, so that they can send the list out to the MSM, with a cover letter stating, in no uncertain terms, that these people ARE NOT DEMOCRATS. That if they're used on a talking head show, that a Disclaimer must be read that their views do not represent in any way the Democratic Party, and have not represented their views for quite a few years.

I mean, who owns the terms Democrat and Republican? If I got on the air and told people I was a Mason (I'm not, by the way), and started spouting out stuff that most Masons would find objectionable, I bet the International Masonic Organization would soon be pointing their Lawyers in my direction.


So, who's your favorite BIPOOT?
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:10 PM
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1. Inrad Bipoot - I gotta remember that
:freak:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:18 PM
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2. Some of his quotes from this asshole
In regards to Rove and Plame he said:



VALENTI:"
This is all about politics. I think that Karl Rove wielded the sharpest broadsword in the election, slashing about, and left a lot of wounded Democrats on the election battlefield. And now the Democrats, tasting the sweet juices of payback time. And so this thing is going to go on."


"The public doesn't know who MoveOn is, and they don't read about Howard Dean that much. I don't know how the public is being stirred by this. This is an inside-baseball thing. But I think the Democrats are reacting just as the Republicans would if the shoe was on the other foot."

He is definitely a Bipoot in addition to being an asshole
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:48 PM
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4. Jack Valenti - from the LBJ administration??
He's so old he sailed with Noah !!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:34 PM
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13. He is a MPAA thug. One of the Copyright Nazis.
Has people prosecuted for daring to write DVD players for Linux without paying the Hollywood tithe.

I don't believe in Hell, but sometimes I wish I did.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:08 PM
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7. "The public doesn't know ..."
"This is an inside-baseball thing."

Baseball metaphor a la Bob Uecker: The repugs should take a look at all those supporters disguised as seats.

BTW, what's the origin of your pic of the arrests? It rox!
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:33 PM
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12. I found it at Smirking Chimp
Where I use to post, it was in their thread on pictures of *****
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:41 PM
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3. I'm already dizzy trying to remember...
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 08:41 PM by Andromeda
LIHOP, DINO, STFU, SOTU, POTUS, SCOTUS, ROFLMAO, DLIHOP, RINO, CMEO, etc., and now you want me to remember BIPOOT??? :argh:

Seriously, Jack Valente needs to go back to Hollywood and stay out of Washington politics. I don't know whose idea it was to have him represent the "Democratic" side but they need to correct the situation and put a REAL Democrat on.
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Bluesplayer Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:53 PM
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5. never trust anyone
with a colored shirt with white collar
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:57 PM
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6. Who is stopping Dean, Kerry, Hillary, Obama, from going on these shows?
??????????????????????????

Have they been "banned" or somthing? If so, prove it.
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ltfranklin Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:09 PM
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8. Gee, I don't know...could it be maybe
CAUSE THEY GOT JOBS?

First, they gotta be invited. And even if they're invited, there's so many shows. Now, the bipoots, on the other hand, mostly don't have real jobs, except perhaps to serve as the token democrats on these shows, which makes them always available and very popular.

The name you mentioned do get invited on shows, but the bipoots seem to be invited much more often.

Oh, and thanks for the strawman, friend.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:27 PM
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10. Have any been turned down when they ask?
I've heard that Seantors can ask to be on.

I've seen Dean, Kerry & Hillary on TV interviews plenty of times- have they ever been turned down, censored or banned?
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ltfranklin Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:06 PM
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23. It's not a case of being asked.
With multiple news channels, 24-hour cycles, large number of talking-head shows, not to mention talk radio, network and prints, the senators you named would have to spend all their time either on the air, in green rooms or in transit between shows to "service" the media. They do what they can. I don't think they're being censored, they just don't have time to show up everytime some right-wingnut makes it onto a show.
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liberalfriend Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:14 PM
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9. dean refuses to sit down with a republican on MTP i think
or that's what i have heard. Does anyone know if he has had a debate with a real republican leader anytime recently?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:28 PM
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11. I doubt Dean refuses to debate Melman.
If that were true Melman would say so & make hay out of it.
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liberalfriend Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 10:58 AM
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22. your probably right
unless Mehlman didn't really feel that he would do a good job debating Dean.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:16 PM
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17. I'll bite.
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 11:17 PM by RUMMYisFROSTED
He debated and destroyed Richard Perle in Oregon.

Highlight: A protester threw a shoe at Perle.



ETA: It wasn't me. I refuse to comment further on an ongoing investigation.
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liberalfriend Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 10:57 AM
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21. hahahahaha
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:23 PM
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18. Baloney. He can get a whole hour on MTP by himself.
You are just saying what the GOP spinners are saying. They are good at those talking points. Dean has made it clear he is not going to turn his job into debating the RNC head. He talks clearly, Mehlman spins.

The point is that he is in demand because of his outspokenness or whatever. Some Democrats have asked that he not be too public...then they go on and sound too passive. :shrug:

That is almost as bad as the blame Joe Wilson thingy going around.
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liberalfriend Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 10:57 AM
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20. maybe so
BUT can you think of any time where he has debated a republican on a major news program? This guy should be able to obliterate Mehlman, you kn ow, call hum out on his bullshit. Look at it this way, every time Dean makes a public remark the repubs are obligated to respond, which in turn allows them to twist and turn what Dean said into something else. If he where to go up against a republican leader he can refute what hey are saying on the spot removing a chance of having his words twisted in the media.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:39 PM
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14. Too funny. Inrad Bipoot, indeed.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:58 PM
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15. "I'm not a leftist...but I play one on TV..." From FAIR 2004.
Your post is great. I remembered this article at FAIR...I thought of it once before this week. I have watched people on our sit there, and not speak up and defend our side. So many times it has happened.

This is a good article, and it has some very choice paragraphs in it. There are a few I don't agree with, and a few I could add. But it is quite good.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1969

"Such debates, spanning the spectrum from A to B, are a television staple. But the narrowness of these pundit mismatches isn't random. Though such debate segments purport to pit right against left, centrist pundits are routinely substituted for the left on panels, while progressives are often excluded altogether. Debates matching conservatives with centrists are a cable television tic so pervasive that a small army of centrist pundits has formed whose motto might as well be, "I'm not a leftist but I play one on TV."

And this about Peter Beinart being cast as a liberal:

""Hot Topics" segment about Iraq War issues on News From CNN (4/20/04) found anchor Wolf Blitzer pitting pro-war conservative Armstrong Williams against... pro-war centrist Peter Beinart, the editor of the New Republic magazine. The two differed on subordinate issues, such as whether the White House was too close to the Saudis (Beinart said yes, Williams said no), but there was no disagreement on the legitimacy of the war or occupation."

And some no holds barred comments about the Crossfire picks on the left....hey, don't kill the messenger.

"The center-right cable format was born in 1982 with the premiere of CNN 's Crossfire . Explicitly marketed as a primetime face-off between one host "from the right" and another "from the left," with corresponding guests from each side, Crossfire set the standard for debates pitting proxy progressives against committed conservatives (see Extra! , 7-8/90). The show's original hosts: from the right, arch-conservative presidential aide Pat Buchanan, and from the left, Tom Braden—whose CIA career included supervising covert operations against Western Europe's left.

Crossfire 's "from the left" job is currently shared by Democratic political consultants Paul Begala and James Carville. Though more combative than previous Crossfire hosts, the two are best known for directing Bill Clinton's centrist presidential campaign. Begala cheers his former boss for turning the party right, away from its traditional liberal base (Meet the Press , 4/11/99): "You know, Bill Clinton saved the Democratic Party with Al Gore by pulling us back to the center, by disagreeing with the liberals on welfare reform and on crime and on trade."

Carville has similar praise for Clinton's centrism (CNBC , 2/23/00): "What he did was a political feat that is unmatched in American political history. He moved the Democratic Party to the center... and kept the core Democratic voters."

Carville's client list raises even more questions about his qualifications as a progressive pundit. He served as a political gun-for-hire for conservative Greek Prime Minister Constantine Mitsotakis in a losing 1993 campaign against socialist Andreas Papandreou (London Times , 10/30/93.) And Carville worked for the Venezuelan opposition in its recent failed attempt to oust President Hugo Chavez, a left-wing populist, in a recall referendum (New York Times , 4/18/04.)


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recoveringdittohed Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:06 PM
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16. Alan Colmes (The "Washington Generals" of political "debate")
My favorite is Alan Colmes who plays the Washington Generals to Hannity's Harlem Globetrotters on Faux News Hannity & Colmes.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:38 PM
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19. Great post. Rec'd. nt
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