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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:11 PM
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warning to all Utah public school teachers you "will be dealt with"

if you teach evolution

http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2864394

Evolution not yet extinct in schools
So far: The state says subject will continue, but a legislator says those who teach the concept "will be dealt with"


The official in charge of Utah's public school curriculum said Friday there will be no change in the way human evolution is taught, despite a state senator's claims to the contrary.
Sen. Chris Buttars, R-West Jordan, had earlier suggested he would propose legislation that would enforce the teaching of alternative concepts of human existence. Now he says conversations with the state superintendent of schools have left him confident that teachers who teach the evolution of humanity "will be dealt with."

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Superintendent Patti Harrington was not immediately available for comment, but on Wednesday told The Associated Press, "There is not enough evidence yet to claim how the earth was created and no evidence to connect the family of apes with the family of man."
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and the rest of the world looks on at america's dumb and stupidness.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:13 PM
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1. It's almost enough to make you want to encourage truancy.
:spank:
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:14 PM
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2. "..no evidence to connect apes and man"...That makes me so mad
I want to grunt and throw feces at her.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:34 PM
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15. I'm sure she gets enough of that at home...
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:14 PM
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3. sheesh!
"will be dealt with" .. looks like a brand of witch hunt or torture.. you know, "vee haf wayz und meanz".

Sue
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:43 PM
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16. Mountain Meadows Massacre
Utah

Home of the Mountain Meadows Massacre. This wouldn't be the first time that the Mormons have "dealt with" those that were different.

Only this time the Mormons will have to do it without the assistance of the Paiute Indians.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:03 PM
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29. They need to
Evolve!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:15 PM
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4. If I lived in Utah I woudl definitely home school now
and teach the kids oh Science and philosophy

Of course as teh dark ages descend upon us we may have to do that anyway as our shcools are becoming a joke becuae of these freaks
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:24 PM
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9. I've been building my book collection for a few years now,
ever since I realized the pool of publishers were shrinking, and that a book can just not be published anymore.
It's a form of censorship that most folks aren't even aware of.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:32 PM
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13. Same here
I fear that these fools may ban science, non-Christian religious, manga, fantasy, and others just so they can be comfortable and pretend to be right. I recommend everyone to build a library for a subject you care about dearly such as liberal politics, Buddhism, history, or whatever gets you interest. Best way we can preserve some knowledge and reform it once these guys wreak our nation.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 02:00 PM
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18. Yes, the nut jobs are capable of banning anything that doesn't
prop up their agenda.
They've already been rewriting history for years, why should anything else be off limits?
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 02:12 PM
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21. If you don't mind a personal question,
what titles/topics are you collecting?

This might be a good question to ask all of DU.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:03 PM
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22. You name it! : - )
Reliable history,astronomy, basic sciences(that I update periodically)Maths all the way through calculus 'cause husbands a nerd,How-to books,like gardening, construction, electricity, classic fiction,philosophy...whatever I run across and have the money to spend. And in a range of grade levels in some cases. I've got about 2000 books, but I really need to weed some out. :)
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:17 PM
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5. 'My way or the highway'
I'll take the highway, thank you very much!!

I feel bad for the kids.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:19 PM
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6. Makes me almost feel better
to be in Kansas. Almost, but not quite.
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UTdem Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:22 PM
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7. yes, it's that bad
My children get a healthy dose of home schooling after they get home from school
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:23 PM
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8. A woman at work told me women can decide the sex of their children
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 01:24 PM by AllyCat
by the types of thoughts they have at the time of conception (peaceful thoughts=girl, troubled thoughts=boy). Another woman piped in saying she was pretty sure the whole male XY chromosomal configuration cinced up the sex of children. First woman walked away.

We stood there dumbfounded...and then I said, "well, we wouldn't want good science to get in the way of unreality, now would we?". The MD next to me blew coffee out her nose.

And this isn't even in UTAH!!!

I'm thinking homeschooling for our child in the making...
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:42 PM
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25. Why don't we just read frickin' chicken entrails?
Perhaps writing holy words on bones and then throwing them in the fire to see which words are cracked when the fire burns down?

Pouring molten lead into water and divining from the shapes that form?

Science? Who the hell needs science in Bush's Happy Jesusland?
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ironman202 Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:26 PM
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10. it sad that in the 21st century we even have to deal
with this BS. Why don't we all join the Flat Earth Society and have our horoscopes done while we're at it?
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UTdem Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:28 PM
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11. in addition
My 9 year old is enjoying hearing excerpts from Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States"

His teacher loves how "inquisitive" he is in class. : )
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alkaline9 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:32 PM
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12. doesn't it make you wonder...
...if these people are still only part of the way through the evolution from apes? How dumb are these people?!?
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:44 PM
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17. Maslow.... still rummaging around trying to meet survival needs...
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 01:45 PM by liberalitch
this an all encompassing task made that way by the fact that in their "rummaging" they do self defeating things: for our ancients it was something like.... leaving the remains of a dead animal outside the cave where you sleep. For modern man it consists of doing things like... voting republican.
Either way you've set it up for the wild animals to come in and tear you a new ass hole.
In effect superstition keeps them from looking beyond that to metaneeds...

They are reduced to worship, eat, sleep, breathe,.... don't pee yet, don't pee yet.
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 01:32 PM
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14. If I were an earth science of biology teacher in Utah now...
I would contact a fledgling film student in a utah university (unless of course michael moore wants in on the action) and GO FOR IT!!!!
I mean teach my ass off.... become an activist for evolutionary science.... be really public about it... film that part.
If nothing happens it could still be a good film, BUT IF the shit does hit the fan then..... super size me, bush's brain and f911... look out!

Even more importantly..... RW freaks look out
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 02:01 PM
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19. What in hell are they thinking?
Do they think that is the way to ensure their society's future? Byt stunting the education of their kids? That makes me extremely angry.:mad: :mad:
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 02:08 PM
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20. Are all the dumbasses in the US united under one party??
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:20 PM
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23. Can we report him to Homeland Security or the police for threats?
I am so ashamed of America's retrograde behavior. We could have done so much good.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:24 PM
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24. WTF?
"In my constituency," he said, "the vast majority believe God created man and we are his spirit children, not his spirit apes."

What is he high on?
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:46 PM
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26. Sup't Harrington is clueless
Sadly this is what the state of affairs has come to in the U.S. with regards to our children's math & science education. Some of them grew up to become Sup'ts (and even Presidents, yuck).
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:53 PM
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27. I saw a new term here on DU a few days ago ... Talibornagains
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LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 10:11 PM
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28. Just sent this to Panda's Thumb
Or at least to one of their contributers! Hopefully, they'll have an appropriate response.
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