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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:53 PM
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If Birth Control pills became illegal how long before before there would
be a blackmarket. A lot of money to be made, where there is a demand there would be a supply.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:58 PM
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1. I have to take them now, and I'm 47.
I take them as medicine, to suppress ovarian cysts that tend to occur in my family.

I'm hoping someone wouldn't be so crazy as to not allow them as medicine.

And, what kind of a crazy world would it be if I were allowed to take them as medicine, but a young woman could not use them as birth control.

It would mean that quite a few rich white girls would have 'cyste problems' necesitating the medication, coincidentally.

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:09 PM
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8. That's how it used to be done
Back in the day, we all wanted to have irregular periods that needed to be regulated by BCP's. I can't believe we're going back there.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:48 PM
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19. Exactly (n/t).
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:59 PM
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2. overnight
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:59 PM
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3. Don't worry your northern pharmacy will still be open =)
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 02:00 PM by justinsb
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:04 PM
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6. No, someone in CA is trying to stop the sales from there to states.
May only apply to bulk sales, but that would affect a lot of states. I would have to look it up. They are trying to close down that pipeline as well.
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:06 PM
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7. I think, as I understand it
it would only apply to bulk sales, specifically on drugs where there is a shortage in Canada. There are only 30 million of us, and the Govt. buys enough for Canada, if we start shipping it all to the states we have problems. But, there is no shortage here of things like birth control pills.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:02 PM
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4. it would probably happen within 24 hours.They will never be illegal.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:04 PM
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5. birth controll pills are DESTROYING the environment....
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 02:23 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
only 18% of the hormones are absorbed by the female body and the other 82% of the hormones are excreted through her urine into the ecosystem/water system and the environment causing much damage to natures animals and plants

http://www.whp-apsf.ca/en/documents/pharmWater.html

www.seagrantnews.org/news/tips/tip_2002_oct.html
Environmental Estrogens May Threaten Minnesota Walleye Fishery
10-24-02
Some male fish that dwell in Minnesota waters are developing female characteristics, according to a study by Sea Grant researchers. Smaller sex organs, female proteins and sterility were some of the characteristics found among populations of walleye, fathead minnow and carp. The mix-up is caused when chemicals get into waterways and then interferes with the fishes' development and reproductive systems. The chemicals, known as environmental estrogens, act the same as natural estrogen, a female hormone. Trace amounts of the chemicals are enough to change the male fish. If too many fish lose their male traits, a drop in the fish population could lead to major ecological problems and impact the economically important recreational walleye fishing industry.
University of Minnesota Sea Grant researcher Deb Swackhamer and her team are studying two Minnesota waterways (Duluth-Superior Harbor and the Mississippi River near St. Paul) to learn more about the source of the environmental estrogens, as well as their effects on fish. Considered endocrine disruptors, the chemicals can reach the environment through sewage systems, paper mills, feed lots or industrial waste. Environmental estrogens can come from the natural hormone estrogen (found in animals, including humans), or from synthetic hormones like those found in birth control pills and industrial products such as detergents, packaging plastics and insecticides.
Many questions still remain. So far, researchers have been unable to pinpoint a specific chemical as the cause of the sexual changes. The team has found that some wild male walleye taken from waters near a sewage outflow of the Mississippi River had high levels of the female egg protein vitellogenin, decreased gonad size and no sperm. But laboratory goldfish exposed to the same water experienced much lesser effects. "Even these subtle effects may have an impact on wild fish," says Swackhamer, "where reproductive opportunities are limited and competition is severe." Further study of fish in Duluth, and eventually the entire Great Lakes, should give her team a better idea of what causes the fish to develop female characteristics.
CONTACT: Deb Swackhamer, Minnesota Sea Grant Researcher and University of Minnesota Professor, School of Public Health (O) 612-626-0435, Email: dswack@umn.edu

www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hecs-sesc/tsri/research/tsri_94.htm
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:13 PM
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10. If I were about 30 years younger, given the choice between
an unplanned pregnancy and the pill, I'd take the pill. Guess the environmental concerns could be addressed finding an alternative to peeing.

BTW--your "harmones" misspelling got a chuckle out of me. Reminded me of the time my adolescent son was trying to duck "The Lecture" (you know the one) by telling me he "knew all about that hairmones stuff." My daughter promptly split a gut and mentally converted that to "hairmoans". It has become one of those family linguistic legends.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:21 PM
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14. LOL thanks
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:27 PM
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24. just my 2 cents
But the environmental concern might be affected more by the loss of wet lands, regulation for raw sewage and other synthetic chemicals
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:10 PM
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9. There probably already is one!
Sales would skyrocket overnight.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:14 PM
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11. I've already decided
Fuck it. I'm getting sterilized. I go to the doctor for a physical next week and I'm telling him to give me a referral. I've been considering it for a long time but this put me over the edge.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:20 PM
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13. Maybe you should just get an IUD....
that way if you change your mind, you can just have it removed...non-hormonal IUD would allow for immediate return to fertility
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:29 PM
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16. I wouldn't be surprised if they target IUDs, as well
one type does contain hormones. The other type (Paragard, the copper T most women are likely to have heard of) doesn't and it's thought that the copper prevents fertilization by changing the mucus consistency but some believe that the IUD prevents implantation of a fertilized egg and want to ban the IUD on that basis.

"They" will get my IUD when it's forcibly removed from my body.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:54 PM
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20. Please don't make a permanent decision now.
This is NOT going to happen. People will protest this in unimaginable numbers; the vast majority of Americans believe that both birth control and choice should be available.

If they do overturn Roe, things will go back to the states. Believe me, the level of protesting (and kicking pols out of office) will be so great it could be the demise of the Republican party.
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:16 PM
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12. I know many women who take the pill for medical reasons,
I do worry about that.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:23 PM
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15. man are you kidding. there will be overnight millionaires left and right
the same thing is going to happen when they outlaw abortions, there will be tour buses going to mexico left and right. doctors will move their office's just across the border and setup shop and there will be nothing the nut cases can do.

I can see it now the nut cases will start protesting at tour offices. "we know where you're going, stop the tours now". how does that saying go, "may you live in interesting times" Geez.
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:38 PM
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17. Funny you posted this, my friend who drives a tour bus of Seniors to
Canada for their drugs, she said the same thing.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 03:48 PM
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18. oh yeah it will change a lot of things. repugs have no idea.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:56 PM
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21. Texanwitch ... I would love to hear your friend's story.
Seniors still go up to Canada, do they?

Are they targeted for search?
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:09 PM
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22. My friend drives a smaller bus, sits about 16 people, and they
drive though a smaller border entrance and so far no problems.

I think the bigger buses draws more attention.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:13 PM
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23. Now, that makes sense!
Hope they enjoy their trips to Canada!

Blessings to them!

Take care!

Peace,
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