Hasn't Judith Miller Proved Her Point?

[dolstein]

Seriously, I don't see how anyone can credibly argue that nobody's ever going to leak information to Judith Miller again if she were to testify before the grand jury in the Plame investigation. Unlike Matt Cooper, she has demonstrated that she's willing to go to jail to protect her source. The chances that (a) Miller will be called on to testify before a grand jury again and (b) that the prosector would actually bring a contempt charge against her and (c) that a judge would actually agree to hold her in comtempt seem pretty slim at this point. So there's really no princple left for her to protect. Personally, I'm hoping that rumors Fitzgerald will bring criminal contempt charges against Miller prove true. If Nixon wasn't above the law, then clearly neither is Miller.

[IndianaGreen]

1. Judith Miller is not a journalist

She is a propagandist for the neocons. May she rot in jail!

[jrthin]

5. Amen!!! nt

[SHRED]

2. Miller is just part of the echo machine anyway

What is she "protecting".
She just regurgitates the WhiteHouse bullshit.
So now she all of the sudden is an investigative journalist with sources to protect?
:spray:

[PDittie]

3. Fitzgerald is very close to learning

what she would have told him, so a good measurement of how successful is the case he's built will be when you see her released.

The sooner, the better. :smoke:

[wurzel]

4. Miller facilitated Administration propaganda. She can stay in jail.

She got "information" from Rve. She printed in NYT. Then Cheny would use her "column" as a "source" to support his next lie.

[Lecky]

6. Unfortunately she's going to end up looking like she was protecting

criminals.

Poor Judy, she's part of the reason why people don't trust the media.

I have no pity for that partisan hack.

[Lecky]

7. Maybe when she gets out of jail she can get a job at Fox News where she

belongs.

[IndianaGreen]

28. Yep, I can visualize Judith Miller, her hair colored blond

as the new talking head on Faux.

Amazing how many of the people that drank the WMD Kool-Aid are now defending Miller as an icon of journalistic integrity.

Judith Miller is AIPAC's neocon propagandist version of Dr. Goebbels. It is long overdue that we start holding accountable all of those political influential elements that lobbied so hard on behalf of Bush's war for the damage they helped bring about to our country and to Iraq. Over 1,700 GIs have died on her account!

[Captain Hilts]

8. I mailed her a postcard today

I told her that Rove likes Matt Cooper more than he likes her and that maybe Chalabi will bail her out.

I signed it 'Helen Waite'.

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. *lol*

[Pallas180]

10. Judith Miller deserves every day in jail and more. She PR'd the war for

the neocons...total lies to convince the American people they were
threatened by non existent WMD - on every tv show and the most read
New York Times.

Furthermore, to cover up for a criminal act is not heroic.

Let her rot there for three years like Starr did to the woman who wouldn't tell lies about Clinton.

What she did and is doing is treasonous IMHO

[dajoki]

25. amen!!

she is protecting traitors therefore she is a traitor.

[PurityOfEssence]

11. If she testifies, it breaks open collusion, propaganda and conspiracy

She is a propaganda functionary of the PNAC. It seems that this stems from Israel-above-all loyalties.

Every action of her life is a falsehood, and she's sinned against the heart of journalism.

Rightfully, she's terrified to have to answer for her actions: it would DESTROY her claims of being a journalist, and it would get her killed by those whom she served. She was the best conduit imaginable for the warhawks: a New York Times journalist. Cheney sneered with joy at her lies. It proved that even the wild-eyed bolsheviks agreed that Saddam was a danger.

Mark these words: she will NEVER speak freely again. She knows too much and has helped the reactionaries too much.

Barring full martial law, she is too hot to be heard. She should play hearts with Jose Padilla and Manuel Noriega.

[Binka]

13. Miller Is The Key

She's in jail not to protect her sources but to protect HERSELF. She knows they will kill her. Cheney sneered with joy at her lies and her crotch. She was his mistress after all. Oops I said too much or have I said enough?

Haiku for Miller

Cheney is well hung
For Israel on your knees
Your neck in a noose

[Pallas180]

16. If she talks, I suspect Cheney is the one who will go down - and

that's why she's not talking - for now.

[quaoar]

12. The grand jury's term expires in October

Miller cannot be held in jail afrter the grand jury is dissolved. So she just has to stay in jail until then and she won't have to testify.

[nascarblue]

15. Unless she's charged with other crimes

Wasn't she charged with only contempt? She could be brought up on other charges easily.

[Pallas180]

18. Like Obstruction of Justice ? n/t

ha!

[Pallas180]

17. Fitzgerald can ask for extensions, the same way Starr did....

and if it's not given to him, which is likely, all hell will break loose I'm betting.

[nascarblue]

14. Miller is a TRAITOR, not a hero

She's pretending to hide behind the fist amendment and her press credentials. The truth is she helped Cheney or Bolton leak the name to Novak. I make my case for this scenario here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1948075

[UT troll]

19. It's pretty obvious...

that Fitz believes Rove was a pawn in Cheney's game on this one. He's seeking something greater than Rove on perjury and obs/juct. Miller is the one falling on the sword for big Dick. It may have been pointless though if Scooter has to as well.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

20. Bernie Ward was on fire yesterday regarding Miller

Ward made the same point that others have made on this board, that Miller is not protecting a source. She's a co-conspirator protecting herself and avoiding giving testimony that would reveal her active role. Ward suggested that the campaign to discredit Joe Wilson by the White House and to blow the cover of his wife to retaliate against him for his debunking of the Iraq-Niger connection is just a small part of it. He said that it wouldn't make sense for the Administration to stick it's neck out and make a big fuss over just one guy who disagreed with them over one point of evidence justifying the war against Iraq. Bernie Ward said that the reason the White House got bent out of shape is because the Wilson trip to Niger threatened to reveal a much larger campaign by the White House to use legitimate news sources to fabricate a phoney justification for war. The White House would feed fake news stories to reporters such as Judith Miller (and who knows how many others) who would conspire with them and print them as fact. Then, the White House could rally American public opinion behind the war by pointing to news stories in major media which described a threat to the United States. This manipulation of the media by the White House, with major media figures entirely complicit in the criminal enterprise in creating a cause for war based upon lies is at the heart of this scandal, according to Ward.

[July]

23. What I don't get is how Miller's stories were taken as "fact."

I read them all in the NYT, and they didn't pass the smell test on a first, cursory reading. Paraphrasing, I remember reading one report about "this reporter" being allowed to observe AT A DISTANCE some Iraqi guy (UNNAMED) looking around in the dirt for WMDs. This was the top story, on page 1, righthand column.

I kept waiting to encounter ONE name or fact whose authenticity didn't depend on my swallowing whole the unsupported, vague assertions of one Judith Miller.

And most of her stories were like that one. At the same time, other reporters (Bumiller comes to mind) were busily writing puff pieces about Georgie that added NOT ONE DAMN THING to our knowledge of our government and our public SERVANTS.

[Imagevision]

21. shhh....let's just forget about Miller and let her stay where she is - the

joke is on her.

[rrrevolution]

22. Protect News Source? OK - Protect Criminal Enterprise? NO WAY

These is no story she wrote, there is no source for a story she wrote, and there is no privilege for anyone to protect a continuing criminal enterprise. To do so is called aiding and abetting. She is likely an unindicted co-conspirator at best, and a criminal defendant if Fitz gets his ducks in a row.

[leesa]

24. I'n not sure about her point, but I think since Rove and Libbey have

already been identified as leakers, I would guess she is criminally covering for someone onboard Air Force 1 where the memo was shared. I don't think her point is to prove she is a trustworthy journalist, I think her point is to protect criminals.

[Supersedeas]

26. Is Judith Miller better than Susan McDougal?

[warrens]

27. Willing to go to jail to avoid an indictment, more likely

Think what the rewards were for her after those bogus stories about WMD. Heck, she probably got Plame's name direct from her lover-boy's lips. Well, he'd be her lover-boy if he was heterosexual and not totally screwed up from years of brutal alcohol and drug abuse.

[kentuck]

29. And what point would that be exactly ??

I don't know what point she is trying to make. Somehow I doubt she is maintaining some type of journalistic integrity...

[Jacobin]

30. She's trying to avoid taking the 5th before the grand jury

She has no concerns about sources. She is trying to save her ass from criminal espionage convictions.

[Skittles]

31. Ms Miller crossed the line from journalist to bush whore

she has no real standards or principles