Pravda: "Plame Case Is About Iraq"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/399/15831_.html

Plame case is about Iraq
07/20/2005 13:19

Why "White House v. Wilson/Plame" Matters

Dig a little deeper and you'll get a glimpse of what lies beneath the White House campaign against the WilsonsThe key issue in the affair has little directly to do with former U.S. ambassador Joseph Wilson; or his wife, Valerie Plame; or Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby; or even President George W. Bush's alter ego, Karl Rove. White House v. Wilson/Plame is about Iraq, where our sons and daughters - and many others - are daily meeting violent death in an unwinnable war. And it's about manipulation.

It's about how our elected representatives were deceived into voting for an unprovoked war and what happened when one man stood up and called the administration's bluff. And it's about the perfect storm now gathering, as: more lies are exposed (whether in journalists' e-mails or in the minutes of high-level meetings at 10 Downing Street), the guerrilla war escalates in Iraq, and more and more Americans find themselves agreeing with Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., that administration leaders seem to be "making it up as they go along."

It wasn't envisaged this way by the naive "neoconservative" ideologues that got us into the quagmire in Iraq. Actually they still seem to believe that all will be well if the Iraqi people can only get it into their heads that we are liberators, not occupiers.

[OhNoTheyDidNot]

1. Here's the thing that really grates on me about this situation ...

"It's about how our elected representatives were deceived into voting for an unprovoked war"

I don't think our elected reps were deceived. I KNEW HE WAS LYING BEFORE THE WAR EVEN STARTED. Most of the people here did as well. We knew he was lying, we KNEW IT. I think a lot of our 'elected officials' did to. I think they were just to wimpy to speak up and now they want to pretend they were deceived. It was after 9/11 and they were afraid to appear 'unpatriotic'. This pisses me off. Michael Moore was the only one with balls before we started the war - he was the only one to tell the truth and say (at the oscars, I think) 'We are about to start a fake war' something to that effect.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

2. Washington is a "team sport"...

...and at some point, when the heat is on, everyone is expected to play by the rules.

That means giving the president what he asks for if he asks for it assertively.

Remember, too, that the "elected officials" who voted for the war new a HELL of a lot less about Bush and his administration than they do today.

I'm sure there were "elected officials" who voted for the war who KNEW the justification was bogus. These are the people who'd give Bush anything he wanted, WITHOUT justification.

But I also believe that SOME...and there's no way of knowing how many...simply succumbed to "peer pressure."

Randi Rhodes did a rant about this last week. It's not about "right" and "wrong" or "legal" and "illegal"...it's about a group of INDIVIDUALS who have a keen interest in their own future, their own ambitions, and when they get the phone call telling them to "vote or else," they vote.

It sucks. But it's also what lies under the shiny red, white and blue veneer of our "democracy."

The NUMBER ONE terrorist who "hates our freedom" is George W. Bush.

[OhNoTheyDidNot]

3. Peer pressure is exactly right. But I think deep down they knew this was

bullshit. Maybe a few from dim ones really fell for his lies, but only a handful. I think most reps knew Iraq posed no threat to us, we knew he was 'king of Bagdad' and nothing more. Few were 'decieved' but a lot are claiming they were. Peer pressue is the EXACT RIGHT TERM. Spinless. Think about the parents, wifes and kids that are left without thier men and women that are dead because of this lack of spine by our reps. Fuck it just infuriates me

[Poiuyt]

4. Exactly right

The politicians knew that Americans wanted to act like John Wayne, so they obliged and went along with Bush. They knew that Bush was lying, but they didn't have the backbone to go against him.

I think it's interesting when we have to read Pravda instead of American press to get the truth.

Welcome to DU!

[OhNoTheyDidNot]

5. Thanks Poiuyt for the welcome. This situation is the 'elephant in the

room" and none of our reps want to admit it. My congresswoman is Feinstein and I have voted for her for the past 15 years. No more. She just voted yes for the patriot act - Guess I'll be voting for whoever runs on the green ticket cuz I am done with these spineless ninnys